Series 1 Episode 6

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Your voice, your community station. You are listening to IPL radio and. [00:00:08] Speaker B: You'Re in the studio with Jen. Jen. For all the things on Tuesday night. And I'm joined by the lovely Liz. Hey. Hey. [00:00:14] Speaker A: How's everyone going? [00:00:15] Speaker B: It's been a while, Liz. I know it's had lots going on, babe. [00:00:18] Speaker A: It's been a rough few weeks. [00:00:20] Speaker B: It has. Don't worry, it's not just you. I think everyone's been having a rough few weeks, but yours have been particularly rough. Yeah. [00:00:28] Speaker A: Just coming down with a bit of everything, you know, a bit of everything that's going around right now. [00:00:32] Speaker B: Everyone's getting sick. I know. I'm feeling very flat today, as you. [00:00:38] Speaker A: Know, things going around. [00:00:39] Speaker B: I know, I know. I'm like, I'm still in my pajamas and I had an hour to get here. It's just one of those days. [00:00:46] Speaker A: Well, I just want to wear my uggies into the studio today. Gotta keep. [00:00:52] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. I. I should have done the same. I've only got ugly slippers. I got them for Mother's Day from Brianna. [00:00:59] Speaker A: Oh, nice. [00:00:59] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, speaking of Brianna, I went to dinner with her and her partner at Quarry. Yes. John and Brianna. Shout out if you're listening. Went there the other night was great. [00:01:10] Speaker A: Yeah. What did you get? Oh, food. I love exploring new places. [00:01:15] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I tried. Well, I've got a platter for the table. [00:01:20] Speaker A: Is it like an entree platter or. [00:01:21] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was. Hang on, I've got a picture. Let's show you the picture. Because it's actually a good one. Yeah, I'll show you the picture. And it was like, I think it had, you know, they do the Turkish breads and then the different chorizos and the olives. Chorizo was on there for sure. Yeah, yeah. Oh, here we go. So. Oh, cheeseburger. Spring rolls. Have you seen them everywhere? [00:01:43] Speaker A: I have. They've been coming out quite a lot of places recently. They're really. [00:01:47] Speaker B: They're really good. Okay. Arancini. Gotta have an arancini on a shared platter. [00:01:51] Speaker A: It depends where you go. If they make it themselves. Yes. If it's the stuff that comes in the boxes, it's not so good. [00:01:58] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. There was squid rings. [00:02:02] Speaker A: Classic. [00:02:03] Speaker B: Yep. Calamari, chicken wings. What is that weird looking? That's the bread. That's the chorizo that, you know, the oils and stuff like that. And second, we're having a little bit of a technical thing out there. That was interference. Oh, but. But the headliner for the share platter was the pork. The. The Asian sticky Asian pork belly bites. Look at those. Oh my God, they're so good. They were so good. So they were that good that Brianna ordered it as a main but they had obviously just re cooked it for the main cuz it was dry. So I took it back. [00:02:43] Speaker A: Oh no. [00:02:44] Speaker B: But I got dry pork is the worst. What? I know it tastes like cardboard. Don't you reckon? [00:02:50] Speaker A: It has real stringy. [00:02:52] Speaker B: It take. Yeah. Like. I don't know. [00:02:56] Speaker A: You know like when you do a pork roast and you cut the ends off and it's just dry as. [00:03:01] Speaker B: I don't know, do I? No. [00:03:03] Speaker A: Have you ever done a pork roast? [00:03:04] Speaker B: Yeah, I've done plenty of pork roast. But I don't know that I've had a dry end on a pork. I don't know. But I do know what you mean though. But no, because yeah, I cook things different. No, she got. Yeah, we sent hers back. I had oysters Kilpatrick. I knew you were gonna do that. I went off them when I was told that they were relative to a snail. I was like, oh my God. And I've got. [00:03:30] Speaker A: Yeah, that seems about the texture. [00:03:32] Speaker B: No, don't. That's. I've got molascophobia. [00:03:34] Speaker A: Don't forget other people also compare it to snot. [00:03:37] Speaker B: No, no, no. Because this is Kilpatrick and it's got the. All the yummy sauce. [00:03:40] Speaker A: It's a little bit cooked well. [00:03:42] Speaker B: I mean they. [00:03:44] Speaker A: I think the sauces, they use Worcestershire sauce usually. [00:03:49] Speaker B: Yeah. But then also the, you know the citrus juice that you put over it. Like to put some lemon or whatever that. That has a little bit of cooking agent or whatever it does it to that. But I'm gonna tell you, right. I'm gonna tell you I love oysters, right. I don't know why. I just love it, right. Don't know why I'm scared of snails. Do all our voices. [00:04:06] Speaker A: Such a good aphrodisiac. [00:04:08] Speaker B: Probably don't really need to. Yeah, that could be it. [00:04:12] Speaker A: No, just really a closet oyster fiend. [00:04:16] Speaker B: I'm a nymph. Is there a word for an oyster? [00:04:20] Speaker A: One. Well, are we really talking about oysters though, are we? [00:04:25] Speaker B: Well, okay, if we're talking about oysters, my faves around here in Rockingham are. Are Warmbur Tavern ones. They are amazing. Martini in Rockingham. [00:04:37] Speaker A: Martini and co. I was thinking about going there for dinner. They have such a big cocktail menu. Looks great. [00:04:42] Speaker B: They're good. And latitude 32 is where I started eating the oysters. But they can be touch and go sometimes, but they're good to go to. But I'm gonna say all of those got beaten by the quarry last. The other night. Absolutely. Hands down, they did. [00:05:00] Speaker A: Maybe quality freshness, maybe. A lot of places get their oysters in frozen, so it can really depend where you go. [00:05:07] Speaker B: I don't know. They just had the right sauce to. Bacon to oyster ratio. That's so weird. Anyway, so that was. Yeah. So we had a nice dinner. So what. What have you been up to other than getting over all the things? [00:05:21] Speaker A: Well, aside from just being in bed for the last few weeks, I was in the hospital last weekend because I coughed so hard I thought I popped along. [00:05:31] Speaker B: Popped along? [00:05:32] Speaker A: Yeah, well, you know, broke. [00:05:33] Speaker B: Broke. [00:05:33] Speaker A: Broken a rib. [00:05:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:35] Speaker A: Or you can even get. You know when you see in movies, they always do that thing where they stab the needle into the lung when a person can't breathe and pneumothorax or something like. [00:05:46] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We did not learn that in first aid, by the way. Yeah. [00:05:50] Speaker A: You can even get that just from coughing too hard. And I know you said you've broken a rib before. [00:05:55] Speaker B: Yes. [00:05:55] Speaker A: So I was in that much pain, I thought I'd, you know, cracked a rib from coughing. [00:06:00] Speaker B: I've broken a rib in other ways. [00:06:01] Speaker A: Too, but it actually turns. Oh, we might want to go into that conversation later. [00:06:09] Speaker B: I was from eating too many oysters. [00:06:11] Speaker A: Really? [00:06:15] Speaker B: Oh, God. I like to make. You've got a different shade of pink right now. That's half the reason I do things. [00:06:24] Speaker A: Just to see your reaction. [00:06:26] Speaker B: It's totally worth it. No. Anyway, go. So I've lost my train of thought. [00:06:30] Speaker A: Now look what you've done. [00:06:32] Speaker B: Oh, God. Oh, okay, I'm. I'm gonna blame it on the frappe. I don't drink dairy or coffee. And I'm having a coffee frappe. [00:06:40] Speaker A: Energy drinks. You don't? [00:06:41] Speaker B: No, I can't. No. So. No. And I've got a coffee buzz you've had in weeks. This one. Other than the weekend. [00:06:50] Speaker A: What happened on the weekend? [00:06:51] Speaker B: I had that many oysters. This may be the biggest buzz. Actually. No, I did have a good weekend, but. Yes. So you go back to your train of thought. Oh, it's. [00:07:01] Speaker A: Oh, yeah. [00:07:02] Speaker B: The ADHD hour of power is upon you people. [00:07:05] Speaker A: Here we go. Let's get lost in every which way conversation that we go. [00:07:09] Speaker B: Let's try it. [00:07:10] Speaker A: Okay, so apparently there's some nerves and like lots of muscles under your ribs actually like damage them by coughing and irritate them. [00:07:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:22] Speaker A: So that was what that was. [00:07:23] Speaker B: That was like killers. [00:07:26] Speaker A: Yeah, basically, yeah. I just coughed so hard that I just inflamed the muscle around there, and I couldn't move. I was just in agony overnight. Couldn't sleep. [00:07:33] Speaker B: Have you ever had pleurisy? [00:07:35] Speaker A: I don't even know what that is. [00:07:36] Speaker B: Oh, that is painful. [00:07:38] Speaker A: What is. [00:07:39] Speaker B: Was a. It was an inflammation in your chest or something. I don't know. It was some kind of thing. And I had to have this special cough syrup, but I was coughing lots. That was painful. I'm gonna Google that one. I can't describe it now because I'm thinking about breaking ribs, but pleurisy was really, really painful, so. But was this a. Do you think this was, like, the worst kind of sick you've been or. [00:08:03] Speaker A: Probably the worst kind of cold sick? Definitely, yeah. Never had it that bad before. It's. It was a bit of an enigma to me. I was like, I cough a lot, you know, when I get sick. [00:08:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:13] Speaker A: I'm a bit of a smoker, too, so obviously, I cough a bit. [00:08:16] Speaker B: You're a bit of a smoker? Yeah. Okay. What, you smoker? [00:08:19] Speaker A: Yeah, the green stuff. [00:08:20] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Yeah. [00:08:21] Speaker A: Good for my mental health. So one that I've got approved from doctors, and I'm. Oh, cool on that now. It's helped with my nausea a lot. [00:08:30] Speaker B: A lot. You get a lot of nausea? Oh, yeah. We were talking about this. [00:08:33] Speaker A: Suffer from severe nausea even last night. Just ate. I don't know, just whatever I had just mixed up in my stomach, and then I was up in the middle of the night vomiting. [00:08:43] Speaker B: Yeah. I get random nights like that. [00:08:45] Speaker A: Something I'm working on with doctors. [00:08:46] Speaker B: But, yes, you're an enigma, too. [00:08:49] Speaker A: A little bit. [00:08:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. You're a unicorn in many ways. A unicorn? Well, pleurisy is an inflammation of the tissues that line the lungs and the chest cavity. And so it was. So it was. [00:09:03] Speaker A: And every time you cough, it just. [00:09:04] Speaker B: Oh, my God. I couldn't even breathe without pain. It was so, so severe. That was probably the worst. But, yeah, it was. [00:09:12] Speaker A: Oh, well, that's pretty much what it felt like over the weekend. I was struggling to breathe. Short of breath. Yeah, to take me in for like a. A heart. You know, they check your heart and everything as well, just in case, because. Up to your shoulder. [00:09:27] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:09:28] Speaker A: And it hurts when you breathe. So obviously they check your heart as well while you're in there, just to make sure. [00:09:32] Speaker B: And you've got a heart on there? [00:09:33] Speaker A: I do. [00:09:34] Speaker B: You've got one. [00:09:35] Speaker A: And it's not surrounded in ice. You'd be surprised. [00:09:37] Speaker B: Oh, my God. [00:09:37] Speaker A: It's, it's, it's. [00:09:38] Speaker B: I was surprised I had one still too, after everything. But ye. So other than your health stuff and me with my oysters, what else is new? [00:09:47] Speaker A: Well, I actually had my birthday yesterday. [00:09:49] Speaker B: Happy birthday. [00:09:50] Speaker A: Thank you. [00:09:51] Speaker B: Thank you. [00:09:51] Speaker A: Happy birthday. 31. Almost halfway through life, you know. [00:09:56] Speaker B: What do you mean, almost halfway through? What does that make me? [00:09:59] Speaker A: The average lifespan is around 74 years of age, I believe, last time I heard. [00:10:05] Speaker B: So Google that. [00:10:06] Speaker A: Technically, no. I'm almost halfway through my life. [00:10:12] Speaker B: That would mean I'm more than halfway through the 40. So that means I'm more than halfway through mine. [00:10:16] Speaker A: It's possible. [00:10:17] Speaker B: I mean, say that I'll be crying. [00:10:19] Speaker A: I know, I know. It's. You just got to take care of yourself and hope. [00:10:24] Speaker B: Yes. No more coffee frappes for me. [00:10:26] Speaker A: I mean, come on. You see, you see runners and things. [00:10:30] Speaker B: Like that, they croak it too, so. Exactly. [00:10:32] Speaker A: They die of heart attacks and things like that. So there's nothing that you can really do if you're predisposed to something. [00:10:38] Speaker B: Yeah. All right. Well, I had an interesting weekend. [00:10:42] Speaker A: How did you. What did you do? [00:10:44] Speaker B: I spent the weekend helping get an engine out of a Land Cruiser and then the other one out of another one almost to swap engines. [00:10:56] Speaker A: So you have an engine crane and everything? [00:10:59] Speaker B: Yes. Noise in the. No. Yeah. Yep. I had fun. I actually had fun. And then I was. Yeah. And I also was detailing the car. Well, I cleaned the car. I didn't want to, you know, just be saying, what do you want me to do next? And I was trying to be very helpful, but I do like tinkering and. [00:11:17] Speaker A: Okay, so a little bit. [00:11:18] Speaker B: Here we go. [00:11:18] Speaker A: I'm a little bit off, so. Okay. This says for Australia. For Australia. A male born in 2021-2023 can expect to live to 81.1 years. [00:11:30] Speaker B: Hang on. [00:11:31] Speaker A: Female can expect to live to 85.1 years. So we're a bit higher than the guys. [00:11:35] Speaker B: We are higher. But that's born in those years. That's like they would be fetuses right now. So what about someone before check out? [00:11:45] Speaker A: Life expectancy was lower. [00:11:47] Speaker B: Yeah. So what is like someone in. Born in their 70s or 80s? I just missed out on the 80s. I'm in the 79. [00:11:59] Speaker A: Well, this is just the average age of death, really. [00:12:01] Speaker B: I need to know these things. I don't know. This might be a little bit confronting for some people to know about what the average living expectancy Is. [00:12:11] Speaker A: Anyway, it's definitely a bit confronting, but obviously that's just a. That's just like a. Like a median. That's just an average of. Of people. So you mostly got people that can live 20, 30 years more, but then you've got people that will live 20, 30 years less because they get hit by a car. [00:12:25] Speaker B: Yeah, I think. Yeah. I think it's important just for everyone to remember to make the most of every day. [00:12:32] Speaker A: Everything is short and you've got to make the best of it. [00:12:35] Speaker B: That's. That's true. That's true. And. Yeah. Why don't we go to a song and then I can finish my coffee. [00:12:43] Speaker A: What do we got up? [00:12:44] Speaker B: Gosh, what have we got? Ah, you can pick one. [00:12:47] Speaker A: Irish Goo Goo Dolls. [00:12:48] Speaker B: I know. I knew you were gonna pick that one favorite. [00:12:52] Speaker A: Ever since Treasure Planet, you. Ever since. [00:12:54] Speaker B: See, for all the things on Tuesday night at IPL Radio, how is your evening going? I hope you enjoyed Guns and Roses. I haven't heard that in a while. [00:13:09] Speaker A: I don't think. I actually have heard Civil War. [00:13:11] Speaker B: Really? [00:13:11] Speaker A: Guns and Roses. No, that's. I think that one's the first me. Look, it's quite unusual for me to not know a song because. [00:13:19] Speaker B: You are very. Ect. [00:13:22] Speaker A: You are listening to. [00:13:23] Speaker B: Yeah, I think that is the best way to be. [00:13:26] Speaker A: It ends up being a bit of a weird playlist when you're at the party. You know, you can go from really, really jumpy to sad and crying. [00:13:33] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, I have. I have. Yeah. I can be gangster rap and then be Aussie. Aussie rock. Yeah, I. I like my country. I like a little bit of everything. [00:13:43] Speaker A: But it's good, you know, it's. I think everyone's music taste is diverse. There's never anyone. Like. I hate how people say to others, oh, your music sucks. [00:13:52] Speaker B: I know, right? But whatever makes them feel good. Yeah. And I only said gangster rap because watch Get Rich or die trying with 50 cent in. I watched that today. [00:14:01] Speaker A: Now you're feeling like a gangster. [00:14:03] Speaker B: Yeah, I feel like I can rap. Not really to see that. I mean, give me enough wine and I'll sing. But even then, you have to be drinking for me to do it and even sound any good. [00:14:15] Speaker A: I should definitely go to a karaoke bar. Let's do it. [00:14:17] Speaker B: Let's do it. Hey, let's try and range one and get B to come along. You reckon? [00:14:21] Speaker A: Let's do it. [00:14:22] Speaker B: Let's do a night. [00:14:23] Speaker A: Get all the girls together. [00:14:24] Speaker B: Yeah, let's do it. See if the. Do you reckon your Partner would get up and sing. No, he won't. [00:14:30] Speaker A: No, but you would. Defense. Who's that? I get pretty. I get pretty, like, sensitive about that kind of stuff. [00:14:39] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:14:39] Speaker A: But I mean, shy. [00:14:41] Speaker B: I reckon we should do it. I reckon we should do it. And I don't know if Brianna would. [00:14:44] Speaker A: Get up, feed me some drinks, and then, you know, anything's on. [00:14:47] Speaker B: Yep. Yeah. All right, cool. You're on. I mean it. Like, we got to do this. We have to do it. I don't know. It depends on the place as well. Like, I've seen them do karaoke, I think, at Sporting Globe, maybe. [00:14:59] Speaker A: Really? [00:14:59] Speaker B: And I've seen them do it at that 116. [00:15:04] Speaker A: See, I was more thinking, like, karaoke bar where you're in an enclosed room and no one else can hear you. [00:15:11] Speaker B: Like in Northbridge. Yeah. [00:15:13] Speaker A: Do they have those here? [00:15:13] Speaker B: They do, they do, yeah, they do. All right. All right. We'll have to look into that. [00:15:18] Speaker A: A little night out, you know. [00:15:20] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. So being that, you know, you've been unwell. I know I had. I lost my voice. [00:15:28] Speaker A: Yes. [00:15:29] Speaker B: But I regularly lose my voice, but this time, oh, my God. So I had laryngitis. Then it went to pharyngitis. [00:15:36] Speaker A: What is pharyngitis? [00:15:37] Speaker B: You didn't even know it was a gitis. Right. My whole. All my glands all down here that was so swollen, you couldn't even touch my neck. I couldn't even swallow, it was so painful. Had the gyruses. Right. Now, we were just talking when the songs are on, because you're getting diagnosed with. Well, they're thinking you might have fibromyalgia, right? [00:16:01] Speaker A: Possibly. Possibly, yes. [00:16:02] Speaker B: So I was diagnosed with that in 2016. 2016. And do you know much about it? [00:16:11] Speaker A: I have done quite a bit of research on it, symptoms, things like that, you know, to cross check, see if any of the symptoms match. And yeah, definitely, there was definitely a few I could check off the list. [00:16:24] Speaker B: I can say that there is a lot. Right. So for those of you that don't know what fibromyalgia is, it's widespread muscle pain and tenderness. It's accompanied by fatigue, altered sleep, memory and mood. There is so many different symptoms, and. [00:16:44] Speaker A: I definitely vary from seven to person. [00:16:46] Speaker B: Yeah, it does. And it only affects, I think, 5% or 10% of males. Males. It's usually females. Now, my auntie has it and her auntie had it. Now, 2016, I got diagnosed and then. This is so horrible to say. I have not felt any symptoms of it since I've lived on my own. Is that weird? [00:17:09] Speaker A: That's. That's quite strange. Yes. [00:17:11] Speaker B: Other than, you know, my shitty ass sleep. [00:17:13] Speaker A: Because, excuse my language, I was probably a lot worse when I was on your own by myself. Yeah. [00:17:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Well, honestly, I haven't. And only these last few days that I've felt like this fatigue in that. Yeah. Like I. I don't have any pain. I'm not on any medication for any of it and stuff like that. But when, like yesterday and today, I just felt like, you know, you get chronic fatigue with it. [00:17:37] Speaker A: Yes. [00:17:37] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:17:38] Speaker A: Very, very tired. Full moon tomorrow and your body just kind of. Kind of aches almost. [00:17:43] Speaker B: Oh my God. I feel like I'm in pain everywhere. And I don't know, it's a full moon tomorrow and I always get super sensitive around the full moon. It's a buck, so it's buck moon. And it's called a buck moon for this reason because it's when the bucks grow their antlers. It's the season where they grow their antlers. So it's called the buck moon. So, yeah, it's about transformation and change and growth. And that's tomorrow. So I always get super sensitive around full moons. Plus I get migraines as well. I don't know. I haven't really had anything for a while. And then yesterday I just got womp and I was just like, you know what? I can't do anything. And I had to get up and do stuff. And then I just. As soon as. As I was finished doing what I had to do, I just flopped back down again today. Literally got showered and dressed just to come in here. [00:18:30] Speaker A: Yeah, that was me too. [00:18:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:32] Speaker A: 100 get what you mean. [00:18:34] Speaker B: I don't know if it's the weather or I don't know if I. I did do a lot on the weekend and I don't know if it's just me being old and it being. I don't know, but maybe your body. [00:18:42] Speaker A: Is just a bit run down. [00:18:45] Speaker B: Yeah, it might be. You've been doing all the things. [00:18:48] Speaker A: Yeah, all the things. [00:18:48] Speaker B: Yeah. So I thought that all being said and you going through your stuff, me going through some stuff, I thought it'd be a good discussion to have around having illnesses and around how that affects your mental health. And so I do think that obviously your physical health and your mental health, I think there's a massive intertwining of those two factors. And I think that one, one and the other will affect the other one from being worse. You know what I mean, so if you're in good physical health, then your mental health is always better and vice versa. Yeah. So. But also, as I was saying, like I mentioned, fibro, now, that's a chronic illness. You can't. You can't cure it. [00:19:35] Speaker A: No. It's incurable. [00:19:37] Speaker B: And I know when I was told I had felt like I was told a death sentence only because of how much stuff goes along with it. And I know that Gail, how other co hosts. She also has it. Shout out to Gail if you're listening. [00:19:52] Speaker A: Hey, girl. [00:19:53] Speaker B: And I know it can. It can be so debilitating. And I think for a long time I was focused on, I'm going to be in pain for the rest of my life. I'm never going to have a good sleep, and I'm always going to feel fatigued. [00:20:05] Speaker A: And what happened for the next few. [00:20:07] Speaker B: Years, that's all I had. [00:20:09] Speaker A: Oh, I thought you said you felt better. [00:20:11] Speaker B: No. Yeah, no, that's all I had when I first was. That's because that's what I focused on. I changed my mindset and I've been focusing on, I'm going to get better. I'm this. And in the last year, I'm. I don't take medication. I haven't been in pain. I'm not on pain meds. I'm just completely me. And. Yeah, but it's only been these last two days. I felt like crap, so. I mean, in a big way, but. [00:20:35] Speaker A: It'Ll catch up to you eventually. [00:20:38] Speaker B: Well, I have got a lot of stress going on, and maybe the buck moon is affecting me in some way, shape or form. Hope I'm not growing antlers, but. [00:20:46] Speaker A: But I'll let you know if I see anything forming on the side of your head. [00:20:49] Speaker B: Okay, cool, Cool. I'll do my hair around them and make it. I might even bling them up if. [00:20:53] Speaker A: I grow some braids around them. Yeah, absolutely. [00:20:56] Speaker B: So, yeah. So I was thinking, like, the correlation between your physical health and your mental health. I think I know with me, I hate letting people down and I hate. I really dislike having to miss out on things or change plans. And I feel really guilty. And I, I. That really gets to me, you know, like, if I'm like, oh, I'm too tired or I just don't feel right. How do you. How do you go about that? [00:21:27] Speaker A: I. I used to definitely be, like, the same opinion on it. I used to get really upset with myself and be like, why you like this? You know? [00:21:37] Speaker B: Yeah, snap out of it. Hey. Yeah. [00:21:39] Speaker A: But then I had to realize that, you know, the friends that really do care about you will understand that, like, if you're not feeling well that day, you shouldn't. You shouldn't have to go. You shouldn't feel obliged to go. [00:21:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:21:53] Speaker A: And when you got good friends, they understand, they'll reschedule with you, you know, make it another time. And I've really had to learn that because I've just been so sick for so long and out of work for so long that, yeah, even being at home and just doing stuff around the house can. Can just wreck me for the rest of the day. [00:22:16] Speaker B: Yeah. And so with ever everything else you've got going on with your health, is that why they're looking at fibro with you? Because that does kind of make sense with what you're explaining to me. But I don't know what else the other things are, but. [00:22:28] Speaker A: Well, the problem is I've got so many different symptoms that. That are probably linked to different things. So one of the things that they're looking at for my stomach right now is something called. What was it? Bile malabsorption. Which is when the, you know, the bile that your body secretes, usually from the gallbladder, but I've had mine removed. But it's also secreted. I believe it's from the liver. [00:22:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. Actually, what if they taking out all these body parts thinking, you know, we, you know, they're not working properly. What if that means that we're not going to work properly because we're missing organs? [00:23:01] Speaker A: Well, they reckon getting your gallbladder removed is not gonna matter because it's, you know, it's kind of like the appendix. You don't really need it. [00:23:08] Speaker B: They've just figured out what the appendix is for now. And I want to tell you something. Did you get your gallbladder out because of gallstones? [00:23:15] Speaker A: Yes. [00:23:15] Speaker B: Guess what? When I had my car accident last year in September, they scanned my, you know, stomach and all, everything because of the accident. I've got gallstones even though I have no gallbladder. It's actually on the duct going to where they cut the gallbladder. Yes. You can still get gallstones. Only to me would that happen. But it actually is a fact, and I'm getting really excited with this. [00:23:38] Speaker A: But this is actually some bad luck right there. [00:23:41] Speaker B: That's a gender. [00:23:42] Speaker A: You know, I've heard they say that they conform in those. In those. [00:23:45] Speaker B: Yes, yes. [00:23:46] Speaker A: But it's. It's rare. [00:23:47] Speaker B: I have to get them out. And it's like, you know, I know. I'VE still got my gallstones in a little one of those hospital specimen jars. They're like this big. And I had it done at Joondalup Hospital. Right. And they said these are the biggest cool stones we've ever seen. [00:24:02] Speaker A: Usually they're like lots of little, little ones. [00:24:05] Speaker B: Yeah, mine were like that. And they, they had like. I don't want to describe it too much. People might gross out. But yeah, mine were like that. And they look like they came off like the moon or something, you know, Those look like little rocks, don't they? Don't they? They've. Yeah, they were. It's so weird, but yeah, no, yeah, no. So that is the thing. But yeah, no, I was thinking that's some bad luck. I know, I know, I know, I know. All the things, all the things we're talking about, all the things. Gallbladder here. So I think it's important, like when you're sick and, and whatever. I think it shouldn't mean it. You know, you've gotta go through the motions and be kind to yourself. And I need to learn this too, so I can say it. But it doesn't have to mean failure. You can learn actually from these moments in your life. You know, I know I beat myself up about so many things, but if you honor your body, I think your body will be kinder to you. And so that's what lessons. You should take lessons like that away from it. So these are just things I was thinking about, you know, talking about. Because it's kind of applicable to us at the moment. Yeah. So creating a self care plan that honors both mind and body is. That's that number 10. Number 10. Yes, yes. [00:25:27] Speaker A: You're going all the way to the bottom. [00:25:28] Speaker B: And you know what I'm like, I like to mix it up a bit. But no, I, I think it's important to. Yeah. To do, do the right thing that honors both your body and your mind for you. And what works for you may not work for me. And you know, everyone's different with everyone. Yeah. So do you have any things that you do when you're going through, like when you're unwell? [00:25:49] Speaker A: I love my games. I love gaming. [00:25:52] Speaker B: Are you Xbox or PlayStation? [00:25:54] Speaker A: Xbox. [00:25:54] Speaker B: Thought so. [00:25:55] Speaker A: OG Xbox since the beginning. [00:25:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:57] Speaker A: Very first. I have the original one still. [00:25:59] Speaker B: I do. [00:26:00] Speaker A: Collector. [00:26:01] Speaker B: Have you got the latest one as well? I do. Okay. What is that one called? [00:26:06] Speaker A: 1X. [00:26:07] Speaker B: Okay. All right. Yeah. And so I think Brianna's got an Xbox fridge. Did you know that? [00:26:14] Speaker A: Oh, one of the ones. [00:26:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:16] Speaker A: They're Pretty cool. [00:26:17] Speaker B: She does have one. Yeah. Yeah. [00:26:19] Speaker A: Stick a couple of Red Bulls in there and keep gaming. [00:26:21] Speaker B: Couple of these things. So let's just found a new item at the servo 711 on the way here. Now we know we have everyone, like Solo pack rated. Isn't it hard rated with the. [00:26:35] Speaker A: Did they call it now? [00:26:36] Speaker B: Yeah. So they got the Solo hardware. [00:26:38] Speaker A: It's solo. Because too many kids were apparently not understanding the advertising. [00:26:44] Speaker B: Oh, okay. So they didn't know it was. Had alcohol in it, or maybe that's what they're saying. But now they have an energy drink made from solo called Solo Energy. So. And you said it tastes like what? [00:26:53] Speaker A: It tastes like solo mixed with sherbet. [00:26:57] Speaker B: Do you know what? I don't think I would ever try that combination. [00:27:00] Speaker A: It's just like a little bit tart and sherbetty, you know, but you can't always get that from solo. It's always that bit bitey and really gives you like a zing in your mouth. [00:27:09] Speaker B: Yeah, right. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know if I'd try it. I'll have to. I'll. I definitely think Brianna might try it. [00:27:15] Speaker A: It's actually quite good. [00:27:17] Speaker B: It is. You'd buy it again? [00:27:18] Speaker A: Yeah, I'd buy it again. [00:27:19] Speaker B: So you're an energy drinker and a coffee drinker. Yeah, this is. Yeah, I'm not. I have given up on caffeine and. And all that, but I am still sipping on my Macca's coffee frappe over there with no cream. [00:27:32] Speaker A: I don't get out of bed in the morning if there isn't a coffee there. [00:27:36] Speaker B: Oh, really? [00:27:37] Speaker A: No. [00:27:37] Speaker B: What is this? Hang on, wait. I've just got some. Just got some feedback coming through from Ren. How you going, Wren? [00:27:45] Speaker A: How you're doing? [00:27:45] Speaker B: Shout out to Ren. Ren is actually part of the Fibro Club as well. [00:27:48] Speaker A: Really? [00:27:49] Speaker B: Yes, he is. So he's part of the small percentage there. So. [00:27:53] Speaker A: So is it. When you say the small percentage, do you mean It's. It's like 95 women that get it. [00:27:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:59] Speaker A: Compared to men. [00:28:01] Speaker B: Correct. [00:28:01] Speaker A: Okay. Okay. So all the people. [00:28:03] Speaker B: All the people diagnosed, it's only five? Yeah. Five to ten. Yeah. Wow. Morgan Freeman is one of them that has it. [00:28:12] Speaker A: Really? [00:28:12] Speaker B: And he has his own plantation for making CBD oil or something. Wow. Marijuana. Yeah. Yeah. [00:28:20] Speaker A: It's supposed to be really quite good for those suffer. [00:28:23] Speaker B: Yeah, well, I'm not a big. I don't. Yeah. But I mean, I'm. [00:28:26] Speaker A: CBD is completely THC free, so not all of them. Not all of them. [00:28:34] Speaker B: Yeah, of course. [00:28:34] Speaker A: But there is ones that you get that are just cbd. [00:28:37] Speaker B: Marcus, coffee has no caffeine in it. What are you talking about? Don't. That could be why I'm even. No, it actually. [00:28:44] Speaker A: Or the. [00:28:45] Speaker B: Or I don't know. [00:28:46] Speaker A: Maybe he just means the frappe. It's not. [00:28:48] Speaker B: Ren, are you pulling my leg or what? [00:28:49] Speaker A: The coffees they make. You see the coffee beans? [00:28:51] Speaker B: Yeah. Ren, you must be pulling my leg, man. You're working on. I don't know. Okay, So I don't know if anyone else has any information on Macca's coffee or frappe. [00:29:03] Speaker A: I know the frappes. They, they have a special like bag that they use that they put in the machine. They don't use. [00:29:09] Speaker B: Apparently the frappes don't. Can you check that for me, Liz? Really? All right, we're going to do it. We're going to do it at the same. Yeah. Anyway, we were talking about mental health and, and physical health. So there's the body, mind, the mind body connection. So how physical health and mental health are deeply intertwined. Chronic illness versus temporary illness. There's different mental impacts of having two different types of illnesses. So obviously chronic illness is a long term one and then also something different is inflammation, pain or. And fatigue directly affecting the brain chemistry. So that can also dramatically affect your mood and your energy levels. So I've been going through a bit of that in the last few days. So isolation and loneliness come after that. I reckon with missing out on social events or work could lead to feelings of disconnection. The loss of normal life and routine creates a sense of isolation as well. And there's a social stigma around illness, especially invisible illnesses. So someone with fibro or someone with even like adhd, when you're in that, I gotta say, the, the, the mental paralysis, it makes people withdraw. And so there is a lot of social stigma around that. And there's all those, you know, if it's because you're neurodivergent or even if it gets you down and you get anxiety and things about that, then you overthink. I know I overthink. So yeah. [00:30:44] Speaker A: Yeah, I think that's definitely ADHD thing. [00:30:47] Speaker B: And I know I did touch on this before. What if you get those things of like you're getting a diagnosis of something and it's like, what if I never get better? And I had that, I went through that in 2016 and it's only through not focusing on what I was supposedly had a focus on what I want and try to create Better that I've been getting it. And I think that's a good reminder for me to go back to that because I've been thinking about too much stuff lately. I'm overthinking. But yes, You've got a little smirk on your face. What is that about? [00:31:19] Speaker A: So apparently the coffee frappe has coffee extract. [00:31:25] Speaker B: Dude. [00:31:26] Speaker A: Which is still technically from coffee beans. [00:31:29] Speaker B: So is it got caffeine in it? Is it caffeine in it? [00:31:33] Speaker A: I think so. [00:31:34] Speaker B: Can you. [00:31:34] Speaker A: I mean, anything from. Made from coffee would have caffeine in it. [00:31:38] Speaker B: Unless they wouldn't it. They have zero caffeine. It's coffee flavor. All right, what have we got here? Are you sharing your diagnosis with us? [00:31:48] Speaker A: Well, this one's from Maccas. The spokeswoman claimed the coffee frappe does include caffeine. This is through coffee powder, which is included in the syrup. So, yes, it does have coffee and caffeine. [00:32:03] Speaker B: The plot thickens. [00:32:05] Speaker A: But it is in a big bag and they put the big bag in their little frappe machine and it mixes up from there. [00:32:10] Speaker B: So into all this dairyish goodness deliciousness. So good. [00:32:15] Speaker A: It's so good. I love coffee rabbits. [00:32:16] Speaker B: Oh, my gosh. I literally don't drink and I don't get maccas. I hate maccas. Sorry, Maccas. But I hate. I hate junk food. And just. Yeah. This last week, this is my third one. [00:32:29] Speaker A: Wow, you're really craving. [00:32:31] Speaker B: I go through stages like that. Like, oh, I haven't had my warm chicken salad in a while. What's wrong with me? But yeah, like, I go through stages, but I. This one has to end because dairy and caffeine is no good for me. [00:32:45] Speaker A: It doesn't go well with your body. [00:32:47] Speaker B: My body is my temple and it doesn't like coffee. Breakfast. [00:32:52] Speaker A: I'm straight at the other end. Hashtag lactose problems. Oh, God, please. [00:33:01] Speaker B: What are you drinking now? [00:33:02] Speaker A: Anyway, this one's a protein smoothie. Now, these are my favorite. [00:33:06] Speaker B: Okay. [00:33:06] Speaker A: Rokabi protein smoothies. [00:33:08] Speaker B: Can I ask you something? You've just drank an energy drink that's fizzy based. Yep. You are now drinking. Is this dairy? [00:33:14] Speaker A: This is a dairy protein smoothie. [00:33:15] Speaker B: You're now drinking a dairy protein after a fizzy caffeine granite. No, but that. Wouldn't that coagulate with that? [00:33:23] Speaker A: Not really. Hey, I have a pretty iron class. [00:33:27] Speaker B: Stomach issues. [00:33:28] Speaker A: That's my point. What is going on? [00:33:30] Speaker B: This is not right. That's your issue. [00:33:32] Speaker A: Doesn't bother me. [00:33:33] Speaker B: That's your issue right there. You can't drink dairy after that. [00:33:36] Speaker A: I just had like, three coffees before I had the energy, so. Trust me, Trust me. [00:33:41] Speaker B: Okay. All right, I'm trusting you. Don't start yakking on me. All right, all right. [00:33:46] Speaker A: So 1. Drinking a coffee for our pay. [00:33:48] Speaker B: I know, but I'm not yakking. It's actually helping me get through this. Okay. So I think, you know, I was talking about how when I get sick or when I'm not feeling well, I get that shame about feeling like I'm a burden to others. And yes, also about counseling plans. I think. What. How do you. What do you do to deal with those kinds of things? [00:34:11] Speaker A: To be honest, it's hard. It's really hard. Especially at first. And even for the first few years, it's hard because you feel guilty and you feel sad for not being able to do all the things that you used to be able to do and provide in the ways that you used to be able to do. So it is very, very hard. [00:34:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:30] Speaker A: But what I've found is the most important to me and has helped me get through it is the support of friends and family. [00:34:39] Speaker B: Yeah, Yeah, I think that's important. [00:34:41] Speaker A: The ones that have, you know, been there and seen just how sick I have been and. And will advocate for me to doctors that good. You know, try and shun me off. [00:34:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:53] Speaker A: So that's probably been. Been my biggest support, I'd say. [00:34:57] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, that's good. It's good to have a balance. I think everything is about finding balance. I think it's good to. I think the real message is here. Listen to your body and honor it. And be kind to yourself. And those that matter won't mind. And those that mind don't matter. Ah, I didn't even plan that. That is. [00:35:16] Speaker A: Maybe you could be a rapper, dude. Oh, yeah, well, he's. She is spinning in the studio. [00:35:23] Speaker B: Absolutely. All right, well, this one. I'm going to play a song now. Going out for my coffee frappe. [00:35:31] Speaker A: Oh, please put Evanescence. [00:35:32] Speaker B: I will after this one. This one's. This one's in honor of my coffee frappe. It's Puddle of Mud. [00:35:39] Speaker A: Your voice, your community station. You are listening to IPL Radio and. [00:35:47] Speaker B: You'Re back in the studio for all the things on a Tuesday night at IPL Radio. You're listening to Jen, Jen and Liz. And that was Stacy's Mum by Fountains of Wayne. [00:35:57] Speaker A: Stacy's mum has got it going on. [00:36:00] Speaker B: Apparently she does. Might have a theme. I was thinking about having theme music playlists. [00:36:06] Speaker A: What, like R B Fridays? Kind of. [00:36:07] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Kind of like that or you know, and asking listeners to pick a theme and then we can make a playlist from that. So one, that one that I just thought of was obviously Stacy's mum. And what did I play before that? I don't know, something else. But I was thinking like girl names or a theme about different, you know, like different things like that. Like that. Okay. As far as I got in my head was girl name thing. So. [00:36:39] Speaker A: Yeah, but we don't even know Stacy's mum's name. [00:36:42] Speaker B: No, but it's still Stacy's mom. Anyway, anyway, that was the thought. That was a thought. Anyway, so another thought I had was, you know, did you know that, did you know seasonal affective disorder is an actual real thing? So like winter blues. [00:37:03] Speaker A: I have heard that. [00:37:04] Speaker B: So like in like the UK and stuff, a lot of people now. I learned this as part of my mental health first aid training here. That, that's a real thing. The seasonal affective disorder. Sad. Sad is a general winter low mood thing. But it happens like in countries that have, you know, that are cold, have a cold climate and things. [00:37:29] Speaker A: So like all the time. [00:37:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. But it also happens in winter. So that's why they call it the winter blues. But yeah, it's an actual real thing. [00:37:38] Speaker A: Do they also get the summer blues? [00:37:41] Speaker B: I think if they have not very good summers, I would be sad too. And if my beaches were pebbles, then I might get sad like beach blues. [00:37:51] Speaker A: It's not very nice to walk on, is it? No. [00:37:52] Speaker B: I don't know, I think it would be cool, but I don't think it would be cool all the time. Like to just go to a beach with the pebbles would be interesting. [00:37:59] Speaker A: But that's the only beach all the time. [00:38:02] Speaker B: And it looks like mud that you're stepping into, doesn't it? [00:38:04] Speaker A: It looks freez cold. Yeah, yeah, looks like getting into an ice bath. [00:38:09] Speaker B: So winter blues is a real thing. So yes, now we know it's called seasonal effective disorder. But the common symptoms for that would be. Pretty much what I'm feeling now is fatigue, lack of motivation, overeating. I don't know about that one. Social withdrawal. [00:38:28] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:38:30] Speaker B: Sadness and irritability. So it's more subtle in Australia due to milder winters, but still very real. I don't know. [00:38:39] Speaker A: Some of the days this winter are pretty horrible. [00:38:41] Speaker B: Yeah, I know, but did you think that winter kind of, it was like taking forever to get here and then all of a sudden it was just hit. [00:38:47] Speaker A: Did you think. I was like. I actually thought it was winter coming yeah. [00:38:50] Speaker B: When's winter coming? And then boom, it's like torrential rain. [00:38:53] Speaker A: Drops down like 20. [00:38:54] Speaker B: I know, I know, I know. So there's a real science behind the seasonal affective disorder, and it has something to do with the reduced sunlight. So that then affects your melatonin levels. [00:39:06] Speaker A: That actually makes sense. [00:39:07] Speaker B: And your sleep cycles. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. And in. In hindsight, then the serotonin. So your mood regulation is then disrupted. So because of the reduced sunlight and because of the effects it has on your melatonin, it then therefore affects your serotonin. So your sleep and your mood regulation is all out of whack. And that, ladies and gentlemen. [00:39:31] Speaker A: Fun. Wow. Yes. So great. [00:39:33] Speaker B: Primarily the. Yeah. The biggest reason and the biggest thing that causes seasonal affective disorder. [00:39:41] Speaker A: I hate stuff that my sleep. [00:39:44] Speaker B: I know. I'm the worst person to stuff up my own sleep. [00:39:47] Speaker A: I'm like a bear if you. If you wake me up from my sleep. Yeah. I'm the type of person to close someone's eyes. [00:39:53] Speaker B: Oh, really? [00:39:54] Speaker A: I used to be real bad. [00:39:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:56] Speaker A: I used to yell when someone wake me up in the morning. [00:39:58] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I'm. I'm getting better. So, you know when your body goes into like this slow mode, so with your cycles being affected, it kind of. This is where you start to crave carbs, where you start to need more sleep and you start feeling less motivated. And I was just saying that, like. [00:40:21] Speaker A: I've been eating hibernating. [00:40:23] Speaker B: It does. That was. Actually. That's coming up. So I'm like. I was just saying, gosh, I've been so flat and I've been eating the worst food. Now. I don't really eat bad food, but for me to have a. You know, I don't mean I don't really eat crap anymore, but I have been snacking on bread and things this week because it's been easy and I've noticed it's affected my mood and I've noticed it's a good way, no, bad way. [00:40:49] Speaker A: Really. [00:40:49] Speaker B: And I noticed it's affected my energy levels. So I've. This is. So I don't drink coffee and I don't drink dairy, but this week, this is my third coffee frappe. I've had less energy, I've had less me. So it's like, it's. Do you. It's a comfort thing. [00:41:10] Speaker A: Do you often not eat sugar? That could be what it is. The fact that. That you don't have any sugar regularly in your diet. And now having it, it's like getting you know, they say it's worse than crack cocaine for addictiveness. No. Diabetes is the most addictive substance on the planet. [00:41:27] Speaker B: It is? Absolutely. [00:41:28] Speaker A: And so when. Absolutely, you know, you get withdrawals from not having them afterwards and things like that. [00:41:33] Speaker B: But I'm finding, like, you crave comfort foods in winter, right? [00:41:37] Speaker A: So, like, well, they make you feel better, don't they? [00:41:39] Speaker B: They do, right? And then those comfort foods, eating those or drinking those whatever, make you feel like crap. That's. That's. That's my point. So it goes into slow mode from eating. Yeah, from eating the crap foods, your body goes into slow mode because you're filling it full of carbs and sugar. And so also, with the seasonal affective disorder or winter blues, there's less time outdoors because of the cold weather and the rain and that. So less vitamin D, so less physical activity. So, people, the cure for winter blues is more vitamin D and more physical activity. Hang on, you missed that one. [00:42:21] Speaker A: More. [00:42:22] Speaker B: No, Liz, you missed that one. [00:42:23] Speaker A: Did I? Sorry. [00:42:24] Speaker B: I went right over. More vitamin D, people. [00:42:26] Speaker A: I don't get any vitamin D. I'm not talking about that kind of vitamin D. Then I get plenty of that. [00:42:35] Speaker B: And less physical activity. [00:42:38] Speaker A: Are you sure about that? [00:42:40] Speaker B: You only took, like, three times for me to say it. [00:42:43] Speaker A: Sorry. You didn't look directly into my eyes and stare me down when you were doing. [00:42:47] Speaker B: Talking about vitamin D and looking at you directly in the eyes might be a bit weird. [00:42:50] Speaker A: Give me that little spicy wink. You know. [00:42:55] Speaker B: Brianna's mama's not got it going on. Oh, God. Anyway, yeah, no, so that is. That is a thing. That is a thing. So, yeah, less vitamin D. So did you know fibromyalgia, vitamin D3 and K something is very important. [00:43:14] Speaker A: So that is D3. Also A. That's not a derivative of sun. No, no, no. [00:43:20] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. I thought you were gonna go. It's not how you've had today. It's an actual. Yeah. [00:43:28] Speaker A: Just because your mind's always in the gutter, Jam. [00:43:30] Speaker B: It's not in the gutter if you live there. Have you got gutters on the cutter? [00:43:34] Speaker A: I like that. I'm gonna use that. [00:43:35] Speaker B: Really? [00:43:36] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm gonna use that now. [00:43:37] Speaker B: That just came out. [00:43:38] Speaker A: Like, it's just a ball of wisdom today, Jen. I am spitting out little sayings here and there. Maybe you could become a rapper. [00:43:45] Speaker B: You know, I am. [00:43:46] Speaker A: Maybe you should get with Jason and. [00:43:47] Speaker B: Create a rap song, maybe. Jason, if you're listening. No, he's actually in New Zealand at the moment, I think. [00:43:53] Speaker A: Oh, is he Lucky bugger. Oh. [00:43:56] Speaker B: Wonder if the weather's better over there. Yeah, I don't know. [00:43:59] Speaker A: I went to. I went there winter and it was freezing and they have snow there as well, especially down in. [00:44:05] Speaker B: I've never seen snow. Really? Yeah. So as. So now we're talking about, you know, winter blues. I would think the opposite about snow. Like, I don't think you'd be sad. I think it would be a happy feeling. Yeah. [00:44:19] Speaker A: Because you want to go out. [00:44:19] Speaker B: Well, yeah. [00:44:20] Speaker A: I mean, the way that they portrayed in movies and things is, you know. [00:44:22] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:44:24] Speaker A: And. And. And build a snowman. [00:44:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:27] Speaker A: Snow angel. [00:44:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:29] Speaker A: The first time I saw snow, I. I loved it. I was so excited. I ended up skating around the. The car park where I was staying in Canada. First time I saw snow and I just skated around on my feet because it ended up being like an ice shrink. [00:44:44] Speaker B: All right, that sounds cool, though. But I have not seen snow. But I reckon it would have the opposite reaction that. That the winter blues do. I think it would make you feel better, but maybe once, if you are in it every day and it's not like a new thing or a holiday thing, it would be annoying. Yeah. [00:45:00] Speaker A: 24 7. Yeah. [00:45:01] Speaker B: Because it's not fluffy, is it? It's just wet. [00:45:04] Speaker A: No, it's not fluffy unless it's fresh. [00:45:06] Speaker B: Okay. [00:45:06] Speaker A: It has to be real fresh for it to be fluffy. If it's even like a couple hours old, it gets hard. And if you scratch up into a snowball and hit someone with it, it'll. It'll hurt. [00:45:15] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. So. Yeah, but I. I mean, that was just a thought. So. Yeah, so we're going through different effects from winter blues now. It's important to probably talk about the mental health side of that. So the lack of sunlight and warmth increases feelings of isolation and emotional heaviness. So that's like. So that's why people get more. I think depression is heightened and in. In. In the winter months because. Because of the sunlight and because of more time spent indoors, less socializing and things like that. So you. So your mental health and depression and anxiety can be. [00:45:57] Speaker A: I actually find it really interesting because a lot of people described depression as, you know, kind of feeling like there's always a dark cloud over them and the world seems like a dark cloud marketplace and. [00:46:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:07] Speaker A: Less colorful and things like that. So. [00:46:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. [00:46:10] Speaker A: There's quite interesting, you know, that thinking about it. [00:46:13] Speaker B: Yeah. And it actually being. Yeah, yeah. Actually being heightened or worsened in winter when there is literally dark clouds. Yeah, yeah. That's that's actually interesting thing about that. So. Yeah, so grief and loneliness and stress can hit harder when the days are darker and slower. So that's another factor in the winter blues. There is emotional triggers in winter. So relationship breakdowns feel more intense when you're already in indoors and withdrawn. Money worries around heating, utilities or illness related costs. That's a big thing because people on low incomes, you know, they can't just have the heater going all the time. [00:46:54] Speaker A: No, that's expensive. Drives the, the bill right up. [00:46:57] Speaker B: Yeah, yep, yep. And so, and even the solar, I. [00:47:01] Speaker A: Mean it doesn't work at night. [00:47:02] Speaker B: No, it doesn't go back to the. [00:47:04] Speaker A: To the companies and then they charge it out to you at a higher rate. [00:47:06] Speaker B: Absolutely. And then there's also the guilt of not being productive or doing enough. So they're the emotional triggers. These can be some emotional triggers. If you have any of these going on, you can message us and we can put you in contact with some websites. [00:47:24] Speaker A: We're going to mention those lines. Yeah, we've got a lot of them in Australia and I'm sure there's plenty over overseas as well. [00:47:30] Speaker B: Yeah. So we'll list those in a minute. I've got another few points about the winter blues. So there is a few things to note on how to cope with the winter blues. So they're saying get outside when you can. Even if it's 10 minutes of sun, it can help. So move your body, dance inside. I'm all for dancing up here for thinking, down here for dancing, walk at lunchtime, gentle yoga, stretching, things like that. Use light therapy lamps or bright indoor lighting to trick your brain. [00:48:03] Speaker A: So I love warm lighting. That's one of my favorite things in the house. [00:48:08] Speaker B: All right. [00:48:08] Speaker A: Some nice warm lighting. [00:48:10] Speaker B: You mean like lamps and things like that? [00:48:12] Speaker A: More like the color. [00:48:13] Speaker B: Oh, you mean the globe rather than the cool white. You like the warm white? Yeah. Okay. I think that's good in summer, but I think I mean good in winter. But I, I don't know, I like to have different options because sometimes you need. I don't know what it is about my house, but it is not very well lit in, especially in my bedroom. And because I've got like a light that is on a ceiling fan, even though I've got ducted heating and air conditioning, it's such a dull light and I, I think I've lived there for three years. I really should have changed the globe by now. I just get different lamps anyway. Sidetracked there, but. And a sleep hygiene. So prioritize a sleep hygiene. So stay consistent even if you want to hibernate. This was me today. I did not want to get up. I had, I've had a few nights of nightmares. I don't know if you suffer with those. [00:49:12] Speaker A: Yeah, I do get them. [00:49:14] Speaker B: And so my sleep has been a bit disrupted and not as relaxing as I, you know, as you'd hope usually. Yeah. And so I was so tired yesterday because I woke up now because I'm getting closer to the full moon. I get migraines and stuff but I hadn't, I haven't really had it for a long time but yesterday I woke up 2:30 and I, you know, nightmares and stuff like that and I just had the worst migraine and it just, it's went all day and I was just kept trying to nap and stuff and I just couldn't sleep well. Yeah, I'm on the squeaky chair again. [00:49:50] Speaker A: I'm surprised you haven't said anything before. [00:49:52] Speaker B: Oh, I'm on the squeaky chair again. Yeah, so and then today, yeah, it was just the same. So I'm finding, yeah, my sleep, when it's crappy and I don't have the best day and I think if you. [00:50:06] Speaker A: Have a lot of, a lot of stuff on your mind as well, it really comes out in the nightmares. [00:50:11] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, no, there's, there's lots going on at the moment. So I guess, yeah. Anyway, I'm not gonna get all up into that. So winter food. So there's ways of nourishing your mood and changing, lifting you up, so to speak. So cooking mood, lifting food, they suggest. So what was that? [00:50:32] Speaker A: Like soups? [00:50:32] Speaker B: Yeah, slow cooked meals, warming herbs and spices. So I did just make a beef and veg stew with fresh thyme in the slow cooker. That was amazing. Was actually really amazing. And so you can boost your serotonin with different foods that are high in tryptophan, like turkey oats, nuts and bananas all at once. That sounds like a turkey banana smoothie. [00:51:00] Speaker A: Are you gonna, you're gonna stuff the, the turkey with the. [00:51:02] Speaker B: Oh yeah, that's a good idea. That's a good idea. And stay hydrated people. Even though it's winter, even though it's cold, please don't forget to drink your water because that will change your mood as well. [00:51:14] Speaker A: Tea is also a good way to get your water intake. [00:51:17] Speaker B: We're going back to the UK Again. We just went back to the uk. [00:51:20] Speaker A: Sure. [00:51:21] Speaker B: We just went back to the uk. No. [00:51:23] Speaker A: Got a problem with me mate? [00:51:24] Speaker B: I want a cup of tea. And a crumpet. [00:51:25] Speaker A: Got a problem, bro? [00:51:28] Speaker B: Who does the best accent? And there's also a couple other things to note. Stay connected. So resist the urge to fully isolate. I'm really crap like that. If I need to switch off from the world. You will not. I. I'm really shit. [00:51:42] Speaker A: You're not going to hear from me for a couple days. I'll just take the time I need. [00:51:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I do. I. I go into shutdown. So, yeah, I'm getting better. [00:51:50] Speaker A: That's taking the time to do what you need to do. [00:51:53] Speaker B: Here's a good one. And we could do this. Host a movie night and shoot. And shoot. Shoot soup share or tea and catch up with friends. So you can make like a night soup. [00:52:04] Speaker A: Share is like, oh, let's spill the soup, guys. [00:52:07] Speaker B: Let's make a soup together. [00:52:09] Speaker A: Spill the tea. Let's go. Spill the tea. [00:52:11] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Where did that voice come from? Oh, my God. Let's make soap. Let's braid each other's hair. [00:52:18] Speaker A: Oh, my gosh. We're gonna have a pillow fight. [00:52:22] Speaker B: Okay, you're talking about pillow fights, and we're talking like, what are the. What is that show called? Bad Girls of Mean Girls. Mean Girls. [00:52:29] Speaker A: What a movie. Bringing that number two. [00:52:32] Speaker B: So we were just mentioning support groups and online chats. Did you get some of that information there? [00:52:37] Speaker A: I did, I did. [00:52:38] Speaker B: So hit us up. [00:52:39] Speaker A: A lot of this information I got here is for Australia, I would advise. You know, if you're overseas, check out your. Your local pages. Google is great for wherever you are. It's my lifeline for finding the information that I need. And on the. Speak of lifeline, I.e. 13, 11, 14. An interesting thing about Lifeline, you can also text them. So they have a texting service. And you can. If, you know, if you don't want to speak on the phone, you don't feel comfortable doing that. You can flick them a text. So their number is 0477. And then 13, 11, 14. [00:53:16] Speaker B: Oh, good stuff, Good stuff. [00:53:17] Speaker A: So we also have headspace for our youth. So headspace is a good one for those people, you know, young. Our young crowd under the age of 25, you know, you feel like you need someone that. [00:53:26] Speaker B: They're wonderful, actually. Yeah, they are actually really good. I used to take, when I fostered my niece and. And my stepdaughter, I used to take there, too. [00:53:33] Speaker A: Yeah, they're great. And they're really good around the local community. They have lots of. I think they have little places that you can go and they'll talk to you in person if you need as well. Their national hotline is 1800-65-0890. [00:53:52] Speaker B: So that's 1865-0890-0890. Awesome. And so what's the age group for that one again? [00:54:00] Speaker A: I think it's usually under 25 if I'm right. [00:54:03] Speaker B: I thought it was more teenagerish, but I'm not sure. [00:54:06] Speaker A: Let me, let me, let me check. [00:54:08] Speaker B: Let's get to that. [00:54:10] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:54:11] Speaker B: So another thing to remember about this time of year is your tax. Do your tax. [00:54:16] Speaker A: I am really bad at doing my tax. [00:54:19] Speaker B: You are. [00:54:20] Speaker A: It's, it's been three. [00:54:21] Speaker B: Mine's gonna be a bit complicated this year, I fear. [00:54:26] Speaker A: Well, I, I tend to put it off because it just seemed like a big thing to do. You know, I've got to find all my receipts and. [00:54:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:34] Speaker A: Filing system somewhere. And when you're adhd, you put your receipts everywhere and you don't necessarily compile them all in one place. You've got little stacks everywhere. [00:54:43] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yes. No. Well, starting a business and things like that has been. I've had to keep all my receipts and because usually I'm a bit hectic with paperwork. So I'm trying to get, you know, my head into that and I have managed to do that. But I mean, being that it's tax time, a lot of people can then go on holidays and things. So we can fleet away from our 15 to 25. 15 to 25. Okay. [00:55:13] Speaker A: You know, you're still a young person if you're under 25, Jen. Geez. Do you think they're old? No, 25 year olds are old. [00:55:19] Speaker B: Too old for me. [00:55:21] Speaker A: Not talking about that, Jen. [00:55:23] Speaker B: No, no jokes. No, no, I, I thought they had, I thought it was predominantly teenage, but I think I'm thinking of the other one. I don't know what the other one is. [00:55:34] Speaker A: The other one? [00:55:35] Speaker B: Yeah. No, there's a lot, a lot of. [00:55:37] Speaker A: Services out there and, and you know, depending what you prefer, if you prefer in person or over the phone or if you're looking for some more long term support, there's. Yeah, definitely seeing a doctor will help. [00:55:48] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Not. And getting your mental health care plan. Yeah. So I think, I think there's a good, I think it's good not only to note the things that might be going on in winter and the summer. I mean the, what are they called? Winter blues. [00:56:01] Speaker A: Winter blues. [00:56:02] Speaker B: Yeah. But it's also a good idea to talk about positive things. So what about thinking about how winter could invite reflection so about slowing down and deep. Rest instead of thinking, I'm tired and I'm this and I'm hibernating. Honoring yourself by feeling like, hang on, I can rest and slow down. Take a moment and enjoy that. So honor your natural rhythms and use this time for inner work. So reflection time. So, you know, journaling and catching. I used to be. [00:56:39] Speaker A: I'm terrible at writing my feelings now. [00:56:41] Speaker B: I am good at blurting out things, but no, not necessarily on paper anymore. [00:56:48] Speaker A: I kind of like. Like the meditation, breathing, like the mindfulness. [00:56:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:53] Speaker A: You know, taking some time, putting on a little track that brings you back down, makes you focus on your breathing. [00:56:59] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Well, last week we had Tim from Embrace Breath in here talking about breath work. [00:57:04] Speaker A: Oh, nice. [00:57:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:05] Speaker A: Good. [00:57:06] Speaker B: Yeah, no, it was actually really good. Very informative. Shout out to Tim if you're listening. He was really great. [00:57:13] Speaker A: Is that through the. The mental health services you guys do here with us, the community? Like, you know, the health training program? [00:57:20] Speaker B: Actually, no, but weirdly you said that because that was my last day of my mental health training. [00:57:24] Speaker A: I remember you putting it up the other week. [00:57:26] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So that. That day was the day that Tim actually has his office out of my. Out of the studio. Studio ora and cooling up where I work. But he. He was so informative and even just with Gail and myself in. In his knowledge, you know, Gail was. She was writing down so much. You know how she does. We miss you, Gail. But yeah, she was writing down all this stuff and, you know, she's like, I've got to put this person onto you and this person onto you. Because he's so helpful and knowledgeable and, yeah, he's going to come back and have. Have some more shows. Yeah, he got the. He got. I think he got the radio bug. Yeah, so did Jason, too. [00:58:07] Speaker A: So everyone's getting bitten. [00:58:08] Speaker B: Everyone's getting bitten. Yeah. It is fun and it is therapeutic, don't you think? [00:58:12] Speaker A: Like, it is. [00:58:12] Speaker B: It is. Like I said to you today, we're chatting before getting ready for the show, and I'm like, oh, my gosh, I'm so flat today, babe. And you're like, you know what, if you're too tired, I'm like, I would feel worse not coming. If I'm not really sick, I would feel worse not coming because of all that pressure of what we were just talking about. That's why I had these talking points, because if I had to let myself get in. In my head enough, I wouldn't be here. Yeah, I was actually gonna come in my Pajamas. That's how crappy. [00:58:45] Speaker A: Why not? It's not like. [00:58:46] Speaker B: I know by the time we get here there's no one here so it's just us in the studio. So really next time I am in a pajama mode. I may actually do. We could do a whole. That's what I was just saying. Jinx man, jinx. Yummy coke. All right. Yeah. Let's do a pajama show. What do you reckon? [00:59:07] Speaker A: I'm so rocking off my new pajamas my mum got me. [00:59:09] Speaker B: What have you got? [00:59:10] Speaker A: She got me a new set of Harry Potter pajamas and a new pair of stitch pajamas and I got matching. [00:59:16] Speaker B: Slippers with a little. I need some, I need some. I need some cool pajamas. All right. Okay. So let's do a pajama night. What do you reckon next week? Do you want to do next week or a fortnight? [00:59:27] Speaker A: I don't know. It depends when we're both going to be on at the same time again. [00:59:29] Speaker B: Okay, all right. Okay. All right. We'll figure it out. But we're going to do a pajama themed show and we're going to do it in our pajamas. We're going to record it so we can put it up on the web page. [00:59:40] Speaker A: Oh no. I'm gonna have to try a lot more cuters then. [00:59:42] Speaker B: Yes, I'll have to probably brush my hair. I did have my be so my beanie is annoying when I've got the head on the headset on. [00:59:53] Speaker A: Yeah, true. [00:59:54] Speaker B: So I did have my beanie and my scarf and my jacket on and then it got a bit annoying cuz I felt like I was suffoc. Yeah, I felt a bit suffocated. [01:00:02] Speaker A: So yeah, my clothes a bit restricting. [01:00:05] Speaker B: And you know you might find that beach, you might find that beach in Swan Borne to be a little bit more better suited. [01:00:12] Speaker A: Your face reminds me there was this thing that happened, I think it was in Queensland recently. A freezing cold at like, like 7 o' clock in the morning and all these beachgoers got in the node and went skinny dipping at the beach. There was hundreds of people. [01:00:28] Speaker B: What is that for a cold water plunge or was that. That was just for some kind of event? [01:00:34] Speaker A: It was an event that people. I don't know if it was like, I mean skinny dipping day or something but they all went darkers at the beach at 7 o'. Clock. [01:00:40] Speaker B: If I was a dude and did that I would feel a little bit random like because I mean when it's cold it's not very forgiving for a male to be cold. But I mean, you know, I don't know. Where did that. Where did you see that? [01:00:53] Speaker A: Because it was news. And they literally had like a helicopter crew over the top. Just. [01:00:57] Speaker B: Can you imagine all these dangly bits. [01:01:00] Speaker A: Helicopter above you, just filming everyone. [01:01:02] Speaker B: That would be classic. [01:01:04] Speaker A: We. [01:01:04] Speaker B: Oh, well, I mean, when I've been on these fearlessly. Very Aussie. Yeah. We. I've been to many fearless women's forest gatherings, different retreats and things like that. And they started doing the ice cold water plunge. I kept my. I had bodies in a singlet on. But lots of women went in stalkers. Some of them went in the underwear. Some. It was freezing. It was so cold. But the. The mud, like under the. It was like in a dam or something. I don't know. Yeah. And where you put your feet in, like in. Because it was so cold. Right. But it does something to your nervous system and it does like a reset and it is very therapeutic. So you got to kind of go through that freezing. Initial freezing thing to get the benefits, the health benefits of it. But I gotta say, after the initial shock of the freezing cold water, you start to realize how warm the actual mud is beneath and you're kind of like trying to sink into it. But I mean, you know, I commend all the people that can do this in the nudge. I was there. I wouldn't. But I mean, I applaud you if you can. But I mean, doing it on national TV and doing a whole thing. One of the things with all your things hanging out, all the things hanging out. Then I'm good on you. Like, I mean, that would be good for your mental health. Yeah. [01:02:27] Speaker A: I mean, you know, there's National Naked Gardening Day and everything. [01:02:30] Speaker B: I know. And because I used to be. Well, I used to be Jen. Jen, the crazy plant lady. That. I do have a Instagram thingy that is that. But everyone used to tag me and. Oh, Jan, It's National Naked Gardening Day. I'm like, oh, damn it. Because by the time we get it in Australia, it's like the next day. [01:02:49] Speaker A: And I think it's cold here half the time when it's. [01:02:51] Speaker B: When it's. [01:02:51] Speaker A: National Naked Gardening Day as well. [01:02:53] Speaker B: I guess that's only bad if you're a dude freezing. Yeah. Yeah. So I guess that's only bad if you're a dude. I don't know. [01:03:03] Speaker A: I don't know. I mean, if you're a woman, even if you're wearing a T shirt, you're gonna get a bit pointy. [01:03:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh, yes. No, I mean, see, girls look better when they're cold. Boys, not so much. [01:03:13] Speaker A: Yeah, not so much. [01:03:15] Speaker B: Okay, so we've got. What have we got here? We've got some. What have we got here? A nude theme night on the radio. [01:03:21] Speaker A: A new thing. We're definitely not videoing that. [01:03:24] Speaker B: We're not done. No, we're not gonna do that. But all the best things happen in. In PJs. I agree. So all the things. All the best things in PJs will be the theme. [01:03:34] Speaker A: I like it. [01:03:35] Speaker B: Oh, I've got a little tickle. You can talk. [01:03:39] Speaker A: Well, now we've just got to decide what to wear for our pajama night. I think I know what I'm gonna go with, but we'll see what the other ladies come up with. Maybe you might have to go for a little shop. [01:03:49] Speaker B: Maybe we can get everyone in the studio for the whole day to do a pajama day. [01:03:53] Speaker A: You reckon we could try? [01:03:55] Speaker B: I could try. [01:03:55] Speaker A: I'd be fun. That's a lot of fun. [01:03:57] Speaker B: I reckon. All right, well, who doesn't want to. [01:04:01] Speaker A: Rock up to work in their comfy pajamas? [01:04:03] Speaker B: I know, right, so. All right, we're going to definitely make this happen. But the thing about this is now we have to come up with songs that match a pajama theme. [01:04:12] Speaker A: That's what I was thinking, too, I reckon. Guys, if you've got any songs that you can hit us up with, anything surrounding the pajama theme or pajama party, sleepover kind of theme. Yeah, let us know. We'll add it to the playlist for tonight. [01:04:24] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That'll be cool. Any requests for a. For our pajama theme night? Yeah, please send them through on the socials or if you're got. If you follow me, then send them through messenger or whatever. And yeah, we'll have that all ready for our pajama theme night. What is else is going on? So I was talking about journaling and meditation. We do tend to get sidetracked for a bit. [01:04:49] Speaker A: We get back to the subject eventually. [01:04:51] Speaker B: We do. We do. Yeah, we do. [01:04:54] Speaker A: Topic at hand. [01:04:55] Speaker B: Correct. So here's some tips to share. So here's some tips. So make a joy list of small winter comforts. So hot water bottles, fuzzy socks, favorite movies, winter candles, favorite hot meals as well. [01:05:08] Speaker A: Like, I love a good hot casserole. It's probably one of my. My things that makes me happy in winter. Yeah, I just like a nice hot casserole with a hot mashed potato. [01:05:17] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. So Good. So good. And like little dinner rolls, you know, with real butter. [01:05:22] Speaker A: Yeah, the ones that you put in the oven. [01:05:23] Speaker B: Yes, the par bake ones. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we were talking about gratitude, journaling, even one sentence a day is fine. And check in on your mates, especially the ones who say they're fine. Sometimes they just say that just so they don't worry. Look at my nails. After doing all that stuff, working in the ocean, they're pretty bad stuff. All the things. Not that stuff anyway. All the things. Yeah. So do that. [01:05:47] Speaker A: And a lot of the time you find the people with the biggest smiles on their faces are the ones that are hurting the most. So it's very important to check in on your mates. [01:05:56] Speaker B: It is, it is. And it is very important to remember it is okay to ask for help. You're not weak, you are just human. And please reach out to someone. There is always someone that, that can help. And if you don't have anyone to help, you can contact Lifeline and you don't have to make the phone calls, you can do the messages and we'll will give you that information a little bit later. Again in the show we're going to cut to some music and I think we'll go with some Billie Eilish and Birds of a Feather. [01:06:28] Speaker A: Your voice, your community station. You are listening to IPL radio and. [01:06:36] Speaker B: You'Re back in the studio with all the things Tuesday night with Jen, Jen and Liz. And we're in the IPL studio. It is 7:46 Tuesday and we're covering all the things tonight. So being that at school holidays I thought let's talk about what to do on school holidays. [01:06:55] Speaker A: Let's do it. [01:06:56] Speaker B: Let's do it. So yeah, I've just thought we could. You did find something on. [01:07:01] Speaker A: I did find something on social notice board. Oh yeah, they got a couple of things in the school holiday program at the Baldivas indoor sports complex complex. So they've got some arts and crafts family pickleball and cookies and cupcake. [01:07:18] Speaker B: What is pickleball? [01:07:20] Speaker A: I've heard about it. It's. It kind of looks like I'm hearing about it now, but with a ping pong bat and this like plastic ball. I think. [01:07:33] Speaker B: Really, I think I need to look it up. Really? [01:07:35] Speaker A: Yeah, I think I've looked it up like once. [01:07:37] Speaker B: All right, we'll have to check it out. And so what else have they got? [01:07:40] Speaker A: Arts and crafts and cookies and cupcake decorating. I love doing cupcakes. That's a lot of fun. [01:07:47] Speaker B: Okay, well, kids would Love that. Yeah, I reckon so. I think with school holidays it's good to have variation. Like, I mean, you don't want to be spending so much money. So you want to know about free stuff as well as outdoorsy stuff. Yeah. So there's the WA Museum Abullah Bardip holiday program at the Perth Cultural Center. So it's a hands on exhibit and creative workshops. And that's at the Perth Cultural Center. They've got art sessions on stuff. Yeah, I reckon it's a lot of fun. I like hands on stuff. [01:08:19] Speaker A: We're talking about kids activities here. [01:08:21] Speaker B: I'm a big kid. [01:08:22] Speaker A: Keep it in your pants. [01:08:23] Speaker B: Oh, I'll keep something in there. All right. Art sessions at Fremantle Art Center. So pottery, sculpture, kids, creative classes, brickworks LEGO exhibit. There is a brickworks LEGO exhibit at the WA Maritime Museum this school holidays. So check that out. Oh, that's a lot of fun locally because we're broadcasting from Rocco in wa. Perth wa. So there's the Rockingham Library or Warnborough Library. They have free craft days, storytelling, coding and board game clubs. [01:08:52] Speaker A: Oh, that's good. Just take the kids down to the local library. [01:08:55] Speaker B: Yeah, I know, right? [01:08:56] Speaker A: Hours and hours. Fun stuff to do at the library. [01:08:59] Speaker B: Absolutely. And also they do have animal encounter options. So. Caversham Wildlife Park. Have you been there? [01:09:07] Speaker A: I have. Have you? [01:09:08] Speaker B: Yes. [01:09:08] Speaker A: It's very good. Lots of kangaroos. [01:09:10] Speaker B: Feed the kangaroos. Meet the wombats. And farm shows. Perth Zoo. Obviously everyone knows about the zoo. Daily animal talks, scavenger hunts and play zones. [01:09:18] Speaker A: Also, what's your favorite animal at the zoo? [01:09:21] Speaker B: Elephants. Really? [01:09:23] Speaker A: That's interesting. [01:09:24] Speaker B: Why? [01:09:24] Speaker A: I don't know. I just never heard of someone's favorite animal being the elephant. Oh, you know that I like the otters. [01:09:30] Speaker B: They're so like, oh my God. [01:09:32] Speaker A: And not. And not just them, the little. What are the other ones like meerkats and stuff as well? [01:09:36] Speaker B: Meerkats, yeah. That always reminds me of Chevy. My. My Chihuahua that passed away last year. He was like this little meerkat looking thing. He was so cool. But yeah, I was just. I have been sharing other memes actually lately on Facebook. Facebook. And when you said otters, I'm like, oh, that's a good secondary animal because they're so cool. [01:09:56] Speaker A: They're so cute. [01:09:57] Speaker B: They're so funny. [01:09:57] Speaker A: Dolphin. Dolphins are my actual favorite animal. I love dolphins. [01:10:01] Speaker B: Do you want to know something weird? [01:10:02] Speaker A: So I really want to swim with dolphins. [01:10:04] Speaker B: Okay. So they do. I don't know if I can say this. Okay. [01:10:08] Speaker A: Is it horrible? Do I want to Hear it? [01:10:10] Speaker B: Oh, you probably don't want to hear it. My friend worked at SeaWorld for 12 years. [01:10:16] Speaker A: I won't say support places like that. [01:10:18] Speaker B: Okay. I'll just say it in the most professional way I can. So dolphins are one of the only mammals that mate for pleasure. [01:10:25] Speaker A: And they're also incredibly smart creatures. [01:10:27] Speaker B: They are, but they're also. It doesn't matter what gender the other dolphin is, so they will. And they will force themselves onto other dolphins into other enclosures. They used to come back. [01:10:40] Speaker A: Dolphins are rapey. [01:10:41] Speaker B: Yes, they are. And they're gay. [01:10:45] Speaker A: Wow. [01:10:45] Speaker B: I learned this and I'm so sorry. [01:10:47] Speaker A: To tell you that now I don't know how to feel about dolphins or. [01:10:51] Speaker B: You want to go swimming with them. [01:10:53] Speaker A: I mean, I kind of still do, but I hope they're not rapey with me. [01:10:57] Speaker B: No. So they used to be in separate enclosures at Sea World and my friend that worked there for 12 years or whatever told me they'd actually come into work and they would have jumped the enclosure and male ones would have raped other male ones. Isn't that weird? [01:11:13] Speaker A: That is weird. [01:11:13] Speaker B: That's so horrible. Yeah. [01:11:16] Speaker A: I thought monkeys were the only other species that had sex for pleasure. [01:11:20] Speaker B: Are they mammals? No. [01:11:21] Speaker A: I don't know. I'm not good at. I'm not good at stuff like that. [01:11:24] Speaker B: Not good at zoology. [01:11:26] Speaker A: Yeah, animalology. [01:11:29] Speaker B: Animalology. Anyway, other animal ology is marine life life. So aqua. I haven't been aqua in a long time. [01:11:38] Speaker A: No. And I heard they actually do underwater dinners now. You know like the dinners where it's in the. [01:11:45] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. In the. Yeah. So do you know what my. When I was. [01:11:48] Speaker A: Aquariums. [01:11:49] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:11:50] Speaker A: Don't. [01:11:51] Speaker B: You're good to get married in there. Yeah, that would be an experience, I think, I think. [01:11:55] Speaker A: I don't know. I reckon I'd love to get married somewhere like beautiful and rainforesty. [01:11:59] Speaker B: Yeah, rainforesty. [01:12:00] Speaker A: Real nice. Like natural wet, dewy kind of. Yeah, that's the mother Nature. [01:12:06] Speaker B: Kind of ethereal or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That sounds cool. [01:12:11] Speaker A: Little lights shining through. [01:12:12] Speaker B: Did you know there's a zoo in Pinjara called the Pill Zone? [01:12:15] Speaker A: Not actually. [01:12:16] Speaker B: So that's more hands on and interactive than most zoos. Peel Zoo in Pinjara. We have to check that out. Maybe, maybe. [01:12:24] Speaker A: Maybe like not a small painting zoo, but like a. A big zoo that you can. [01:12:28] Speaker B: So there is some indoor and rainy day ideas considering it's winter. So you've got Time Zone and I play. So you've got Rockingham and Carousel for those. You got Hoyts and event cinemas for movies. Planet Royale in Perth. A retro arcade burger bar and old school movie theater. Get out of town, Liz. [01:12:49] Speaker A: Always wanted to go. Liz, it's on my list. [01:12:51] Speaker B: Stuff the kids in the school holidays we're going to. Oh, my God. [01:12:55] Speaker A: That's pretty cool deals there as well. [01:12:58] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. We've got indoor trampoline parks. I'm great to go to Bounce inflatable world or just jump at Rockingham. Therehere we go. SciTech hands on and hands on. Science exhibits, live shows and interactive zones. [01:13:12] Speaker A: That used to be one of my favorites. [01:13:15] Speaker B: I love it. [01:13:15] Speaker A: Interactive learning. [01:13:17] Speaker B: Love, love, love it. What was the other thing we had here? Outdoor adventures. So Kings park discovery walks and Rio Tinto Naturescape. So climb the ropes. Damn water. Damn the water. Damn water. Damn. Explore bush trails. [01:13:33] Speaker A: Explore the dam. [01:13:35] Speaker B: Explore that damn water. Oh, my gosh. All right, Yanchip National Parks. You've got koalas, aboriginal cultural talks, bush hikes and lake picnics. What else we got over there, Liz? [01:13:46] Speaker A: Oh, we got. Got Araluan Botanic Park. Stunning winter gardens, space to roam. Great for picnics. Obviously you've got your rocky foreshore. They've got a big pirate playground there. I think they're actually redoing a lot. Yeah, they have. [01:14:00] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:14:01] Speaker A: All the playgrounds still open. I know there is one of them that's definitely still open because we went for a walk down to the foreshore the other day. [01:14:09] Speaker B: Did you? [01:14:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:14:10] Speaker B: We have a romantic role. Romantic walk. [01:14:12] Speaker A: We tend to have more debatable walks. [01:14:16] Speaker B: We. [01:14:17] Speaker A: We like to talk about a lot of different stuff and we debate about a lot of stuff. Oh, difference of opinions, you know. [01:14:24] Speaker B: Yeah. But I mean, I think that helps you grow. It does if you have all the same opinions. How's. Where's the interesting part of that? So I think that's. That's. [01:14:32] Speaker A: Look, I don't like to be told I'm wrong, but sometimes it's okay. [01:14:36] Speaker B: And were you quite often wrong in your war? [01:14:40] Speaker A: No, no, definitely not. [01:14:41] Speaker B: Shannon. [01:14:41] Speaker A: Sorry, Shannon. [01:14:42] Speaker B: We're hearing it all now. [01:14:43] Speaker A: It was mostly. It was mostly. [01:14:44] Speaker B: He was wrong, wrong, wrong, wrong. What else have we got? We've got tree adventures. So Lane pool reserve in dwelling up. Oh, okay. [01:14:55] Speaker A: Actually, I've heard about this as we go. [01:14:56] Speaker B: This is where we used to do the forest gatherings and it's got the zip line and the rope courses. We did the forest gatherings initially there. And now they're in me up with. With. Oh, gosh. Michelle and Caroline for the fearless women's but yeah, they used to be a dwelling up and they've got the zip line. And I remember going to the first fearless forest gathering. Bit of a mouthful. And I did it. And I went on the zip line. Now I am petrified of heights, but more so falling. And I went on the zip line. And then I was known as the screamer because everyone stopped and heard Jenny screaming. [01:15:35] Speaker A: Only that aspect of life. [01:15:37] Speaker B: No, not just that one, but yes. And then when I got to the other side, I was trembling. And I remember Caroline, like, grabbed me at the other side and got me off the. Off the thing. And she goes, oh, my God. She goes, oh, my God, you're shaking. I'm like, oh, my God. That was one of my biggest fears, other than snails and clowns, obviously, but. And I was. Yeah, I was shaking, and then everyone gave me shaking because I was a screamer. You know me, I'm. [01:16:01] Speaker A: Loud sounds at the end. Hey, I like how you just added snails and clowns at the end. [01:16:05] Speaker B: Well, if I encountered those on my way down from this zip line and the heights, that would have been my snails. They're so disgusting and gross and. I don't know, my brother used to traumatize me with them when I was younger. And now I have this thing. [01:16:19] Speaker A: They never will attack you by them. [01:16:21] Speaker B: I can run away from them. [01:16:22] Speaker A: You can definitely run away. [01:16:23] Speaker B: I'm well aware. Aware that I can run away from them. [01:16:25] Speaker A: I'm pretty sure that your legs are bigger than. [01:16:27] Speaker B: I'll tell you something. I'll tell you something. [01:16:29] Speaker A: I mean, my legs carry their whole house with them. [01:16:31] Speaker B: I know. Except if they're homeless and they're slugs. [01:16:35] Speaker A: I tell you what, I stepped on one last night. I didn't even know we had slugs here. Really, like. [01:16:41] Speaker B: Oh, do you know what? Do you know how to kill them? [01:16:43] Speaker A: But never a homeless one. [01:16:44] Speaker B: Do you know how to kill them? [01:16:45] Speaker A: I mean, I nearly. When I stepped on it. [01:16:46] Speaker B: Salt. [01:16:47] Speaker A: Yeah. Doesn't it, like, dry them out? [01:16:49] Speaker B: Oh, it's. They. They bubble. It's so gross. [01:16:53] Speaker A: When I lived in Craig and watching it explode. [01:16:56] Speaker B: What is that a thing? Really? A seagull? [01:17:01] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:17:01] Speaker B: Have you done that before? [01:17:02] Speaker A: It's like bicarb or something, but I've heard of it. Yeah. Yeah, they put it on. [01:17:07] Speaker B: We sound very. This is. [01:17:09] Speaker A: This is an Aussie thing, and this is mostly a guy thing because you know how much they have fun playing with the animals when they're younger. [01:17:18] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:18] Speaker A: And my partner used to tell me that the local kids used to drop dip, like Macas chips in, like. I think it was bicarb or something like that. Throw it to them and it blocks them up so that they cannot burp or fart and they just explode. [01:17:33] Speaker B: No, no, I remember it used to be a. [01:17:37] Speaker A: A thing that used to go around when I was a kid that it was actually. What was. Was something else that did it. [01:17:47] Speaker B: Oh, okay, that's right. [01:17:49] Speaker A: Rice from weddings and stuff, you know. [01:17:51] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:17:53] Speaker A: Makes birds explode or something. But that was false. That was just a rumor. And it's actually, I think bicarb or something like that, it makes them not able to burp or fart and they just explode from the. From the inside out. [01:18:06] Speaker B: Oh, hang on. No. Okay, well, this is baking soda. [01:18:09] Speaker A: Maybe baking soda. Maybe it was. Oh, wait, like I said, I don't know which one it is, but yeah, it's it. [01:18:16] Speaker B: Okay, this is on Reddit. [01:18:17] Speaker A: Maybe we should tell people. [01:18:18] Speaker B: Is it if you feed a seagull bicarb soda? Is this. Hang on, let's have a look. Does baking soda kill seagulls? Baking soda will not work as a food deterrent to kill seagulls. Not only is this untrue, but it is also cruel and illegal to complain. Contemplate such an act. So if it's saying that, it'll just make it sick. Saying that will just make it sick, including a release, or may cause the stomach discomfort, including the release of gas. A seagull will not explode from eating bicarb's baking soda and will not. Will likely not die. So we've just debunked it. But Google what happens to a slug if you put salt on it, and. [01:19:04] Speaker A: I imagine it will. [01:19:05] Speaker B: Let's see if we can debunk mine. Because I lived in Craigie and we had the most snail slug ratio in my back patio. So I think my. My son's father did this with salt. Let's have a look. Oh, my God, I'm an evil person. Because mine is actually true. When salt comes into. [01:19:33] Speaker A: Have you for someone. Slugs? [01:19:35] Speaker B: No, I won't go near them. But I have seen it happen because they used to come and eat everything under. And so someone put like a salt perimeter thing in my patio and you just see them and that. So when salt comes into contact with a slug, it causes the slug to dehydrate and die. This happens due to a process called osmosis, where water moves from an area of lower salt concentration, the slug's body to an area of higher concentration, the salt. The rapid loss of Water leads to dehydration and death. Slugs have moist skin and when salt is applied, it creates a highly concentrated salt solution on the outside. So, yes, my one is actually true and I feel evil that I know that. Do we have any other animal debunking things? [01:20:22] Speaker A: I don't know. I'd be interested to know if there's any. [01:20:25] Speaker B: Okay. What about laxatives to birds? I've just had that one. [01:20:27] Speaker A: Oh, yeah, that's. [01:20:28] Speaker B: That's all true. Is that true? Do they just crap? [01:20:31] Speaker A: Yeah, they'll just crap over everyone. That's another thing I've heard people. I know a few laxatives. [01:20:36] Speaker B: I know a few birds that have. [01:20:37] Speaker A: Had laxatives, feeding it to the birds and then they will go and over everyone at the beach. [01:20:42] Speaker B: Is it bad that I want to do that? [01:20:44] Speaker A: No, it's really quite funny. That's too. [01:20:48] Speaker B: That might be more fun than the pajama theme radio night. [01:20:52] Speaker A: Just make sure you bring an umbrella. [01:20:54] Speaker B: Oh, my God. Oi. You'd want a clear umbrella so you can still see the action. [01:20:58] Speaker A: No. [01:21:01] Speaker B: Oh, my Lord, we are terrible. Liz. [01:21:06] Speaker A: Evil. [01:21:06] Speaker B: We just went to places we probably shouldn't have. I know. How about we have. Because we're making it a little bit complicated. Let's have some Avril Lavigne, your voice, your community station. [01:21:20] Speaker A: You are listening to IPL RA and. [01:21:24] Speaker B: You'Re back in the studio for all the Things on a Tuesday night with Jen. Jen and Liz. And that was Destiny's Child. Save My Name. That was a request by you, Liz. I love this. [01:21:35] Speaker A: I just love me some Beyonce. [01:21:37] Speaker B: Oh, Beyonce. Yeah. Yeah. We did have a little bit of a. Little bit of a moment. We were checking out the new kitchen here. They've just built a new kitchen in the studio. So we did have a little moment of. [01:21:49] Speaker A: Sorry, yes. [01:21:50] Speaker B: Little technical issue, but that's all good. And while I'm looking through songs to pick the songs for tonight's show, I found a good opening song for all the Things. So it's going to be Blink182. All the small Things. Every opening. Yeah, that's going to be our opening song. Yeah. Well, if you can think of a better one, please send us some info. Send us your ideas. So being that it is school holidays. Yeah. We've just talked about kids can be full on, parents can be full on, but public can be full on. But I think it's important for us to also discuss the pressure for parents coping and how. How to cope better during school holidays. Because obviously there's A lot of pressure for parents to either, even if they're working and full time and whatever, to make things magical, take time off or whatever. And sometimes people can afford to, so there's a lot of pressure to make it magical. So social media and everything, expectations versus reality, even snacks, screen times and survival. It's okay if every day isn't a themed adventure. So I think it's important for parents, carers and caregivers let go of the guilt that goes around that surrounds, you know, things needing to be perfect. [01:23:12] Speaker A: Yeah, they don't need to be perfect. They don't got to be present. You've got to be there. For kids. [01:23:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:23:16] Speaker A: I mean, that was the most important thing to me growing up was just spending time. [01:23:19] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. And I mean, even if it's, even if you're helping, you know, an adult or, or just, you know, including that child in whatever you need to be doing, sometimes that can be just quality time as well. Yeah. [01:23:34] Speaker A: I mean, I know kids love helping out. Just cooking and things like that. Sometimes that can be exciting for them. [01:23:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:23:39] Speaker A: I mean, it depends on the child, you know. [01:23:40] Speaker B: Does. Depends on the child. So. Yeah, but just include them in things and juggling work and finances and having time off. So many parents still have to work during school holidays and it doesn't always line up with adult life. So. Managing mum. Yeah. So I think it's important to learn how to manage a budget. Friendly activities when everything seems to cost money. So that's why we've. We've come up with some ideas in our segment just before. Maybe we could write that up, add it and put it on on the website. Yeah. And also trying to divide time between kids, work and self care. What's that? What's. What's self care? So I think it's important to have balance with everything that's going on now. Also, what about the mental load and the emotional burnout? So constant planning, referring sibling. Like referring sibling arguments and answering. I'm answering. I'm bored about 63 times a day. [01:24:39] Speaker A: Are we there yet? [01:24:40] Speaker B: That would burn you out. Are we there yet? Are we done yet? Are you in yet? No. Sensory overload for neurodivergent parents or those with chronic health challenges. Now that's one I used to. Really. I don't know what it was. Right. But every school holidays I used to get sick, or we all used to get sick and it was like we'd spend the holidays being sick and we never got to do anything. And it was like, yes, I don't know. It was just a thing that used to happen. It was like you kind of just like got through, got through, got through. And then just when you're gonna have a holiday, you'd all get sick or you'd totally burn out. And that's what I used to do. So I think you can get overloaded, you can get to burnout mode. And sometimes school holidays are just those moments to recharge yourself. So don't, don't feel the shame about that. Just honor your body and honor the, you know, what your body is needing. [01:25:32] Speaker A: I mean, I can 100% tell you that if I was a parent, I would fully get sensory overload with kids. [01:25:37] Speaker B: Oh God. Could you imagine going to Scitech on the school holidays? [01:25:40] Speaker A: No, just the noise. I'd probably end up, up sitting in a corner, rocking backwards and forwards, fingers in my ears. [01:25:51] Speaker B: Yeah. No, I think it's important just to find balance and just be practical and be, you know, be, just be, just be, just be, just be. That's all I got. That's my words of advice. Also, how do you cope with the parent guilt? Because I know I used to think, and especially because we used to get sick and I, I, you know, I had fostered kids and different things and so at some stages, I think we had like 11 kids at one stage. So I used to get guilt. I used to feel guilty for not doing enough or for yelling. Well, not really a yeller, but, you. [01:26:28] Speaker A: Know, maybe getting a bit too frustrated. [01:26:30] Speaker B: Yeah. And I'm letting them go on their screen times over green times, because sometimes I'm green tired. [01:26:36] Speaker A: Is that like outside times time? [01:26:37] Speaker B: Screen time is green time. Green time is outside time. [01:26:40] Speaker A: Yeah, I know what screen time is. [01:26:42] Speaker B: Screen time versus screen time. Yeah. And sometimes if you're wrecked, you're just going to give them the Xbox. [01:26:49] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:26:49] Speaker B: You know, that's going to turn into something next level. But you just need that moment. [01:26:53] Speaker A: And sometimes you've got to need time away for them to take care of themselves. [01:26:56] Speaker B: Yeah. Hey, I don't want to be entertaining and running around the park. Yeah. Go and play Xbox. Yeah. So don't feel guilty about that. Everyone needs balance and sometimes you just need that moment. So don't beat yourself up about it. You know, they reckon that letting kids be bored builds creativity. So rather than you having to find options and activities for them to do, let them get to that moment where they have to use their creativity to come up with things to entertain themselves, like building thoughts, building thoughts or doing, you know, things outside. And I'm Coming up with the idea. [01:27:37] Speaker A: Half the time is the biggest part of it, isn't it? [01:27:39] Speaker B: I know, I know, I know. Just like how much, how excited did we get about deciding to do a pajama show? Hello. We just had that moment, so let the kids have that moment. And I think the idea of quality over quantity, one connected moment can be more valuable than a packed day. So I think it's important to be to go that quality over quantity. And don't think you have to spend hundreds of dollars just to keep your kids happy or to be. Keep up with the Joneses. Sometimes the most simplest things and even the free things are the best things. So we've given you different options with free activities across Perth. [01:28:20] Speaker A: I mean, going to the Sunday markets is great, I love the markets. But is it really free when you end up spending a lot of money? Money? [01:28:27] Speaker B: No. But although if you go to Frio ones, they've got the performers. [01:28:30] Speaker A: Oh, really? [01:28:31] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, they've got the buskers and stuff. [01:28:33] Speaker A: Do that. [01:28:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:28:35] Speaker A: Live music and everything. [01:28:36] Speaker B: Yeah, they got some good ones there. So, yeah. So, I mean, yeah. Quality over quantity and creating realistic routines so structure can help reduce the chaos. Even if it's just brunch, play, chill, dinner, but build in quiet time. So reading puzzles, audiobooks and do your own thing kind of hour is a way of balance and flexibility is your friend. So be prepared to throw the plan out the window and start over and. Oh my gosh, I think that is one of the most important things I've had to learn as a human being. [01:29:10] Speaker A: Flexible is hard, though. And I'm not just talking about. [01:29:13] Speaker B: Not if you do your stretches. You went there, you went there. See, See? It can't be the gutter if that's where I live. [01:29:23] Speaker A: Hey, apparently I live there with you too. [01:29:28] Speaker B: Oh, yes. There's nothing wrong with that. It keeps life interesting. I think another thing to remember is use your village. Don't be afraid to ask for help. [01:29:37] Speaker A: Yes. [01:29:38] Speaker B: Swaps with friends, families, baby babysitting, community events, share the load with co parents or trusted friends. No one should have to do it solo 24 7. And I don't think you can. [01:29:49] Speaker A: No. I think it always takes a village. [01:29:52] Speaker B: It does, it does. So look for free events at libraries. We've, we've, we've listed some. Engage in churches and councils and wellness hubs. There's all different things out there and there's all the things. [01:30:09] Speaker A: Local councils will often post events for your area on their page. Yeah, A lot of the times it can be. Be Free or you know like a, you know like a fair or something where you go and you spend some money or something like that. But again they, they advertise a lot of the stuff that's happening in around the community. So we encourage you to check those out. [01:30:25] Speaker B: Yeah, community, they're all over the socials as well. So just check out your community notice boards on Facebook or I don't know. [01:30:34] Speaker A: If they're on the socials. Ask a friend. [01:30:37] Speaker B: Ask a friend. Yes. So also big thing to remember in school holidays is to do your mental health check ins. So if you're feeling constantly overwhelmed, teary or numb, that's the sign to pause. [01:30:49] Speaker A: I think if you're feeling like that that's, that's a sign that you probably should have a chat to someone. [01:30:53] Speaker B: Yeah. Yep. And so your mental health matters just as much as your child's fun. So do remember that, balance that and you know, check ins and, and taking time out. And so taking care of yourself is taking care of your kids as well. So that's a very big hot tip. [01:31:11] Speaker A: I mean, you know what they always say, you got to put the mask on yourself in a plane before you put it on your kid. [01:31:15] Speaker B: Yep, yep, yep, yep. So you can't pull from an empty cup. So self care isn't selfish even if it's three minutes. So sip your tea while it's hot. Stretch your body, sit in silence, journal. Cry in the shower. I love singing in the shower. [01:31:28] Speaker A: I was gonna say I'm not a big. I like, I like singing in the shower. [01:31:31] Speaker B: Yeah, I've got a shower speaker now. [01:31:33] Speaker A: If I'm gonna cry, it's probably not gonna be in the shower. [01:31:35] Speaker B: No. Oh yeah. I used to do that when you know, I had a house full so that no one saw me cry. But yeah, so I have a shower speaker and I, my thing is to do three songs now because I've got adhd. I get completely bored once I've, you know, if I'm in the shower with no music. [01:31:53] Speaker A: Yeah, I'm the same. [01:31:54] Speaker B: I have to have music. [01:31:55] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:31:56] Speaker B: Otherwise it's going to be quick. [01:31:57] Speaker A: I know I can't have a shower. [01:31:58] Speaker B: And I could do that three times a day or I'll do three songs three times a day and I'll be like, yeah, yes, Kevin. So yeah. And that's my self care. So you know, it's important to note your owns and the things that you do get that calm from and so, and set your boundaries. It's okay to say mum needs five minutes, dad Needs half an hour to himself. I gotta go out for, you know, cigarette or whatever you do and just schedule something in just for you during the break. Even if it's a solo grocery shop with the podcast. Podcast. Or you can be listening to all the things, anything on ipl. You'd be great. [01:32:36] Speaker A: And do any serial killer podcasts here. [01:32:39] Speaker B: Serial killer ones? [01:32:40] Speaker A: Yeah. You know, apparently that's the one the housewives find interesting. You know, I have actually. I can't listen to it. [01:32:47] Speaker B: Dude, I don't know how you could do like calm things and listen to that and be calm. [01:32:51] Speaker A: I don't either. [01:32:52] Speaker B: That's weird. That is weird. So what else have we got? What else can you think of? Liz? Laugh about things. Chaos is temporary. The mess will clean, the memory will fade, but the laughs will stick. That's a good one. Yeah. [01:33:04] Speaker A: Share relatable memes. I know you love sharing your memes, especially your otter ones. [01:33:10] Speaker B: Everyone be prepared for more otter memes, because I have just found a page and I'm obsessed with it. [01:33:15] Speaker A: Scream, laugh into a pillow. How do you scream laugh? Scream, scream laughing. I mean, I could definitely scream into. [01:33:22] Speaker B: A pillow, but scream laughing sounds like a sociopath thing. Oh, yeah, yeah, like they're just laughing and screaming at the same time. Like you don't know if they're gonna hug you or kill you. And look, you don't have to be everything every moment. You're doing your best and that's more than enough. So please remember that parents, carers, you. [01:33:47] Speaker A: Can push yourself forward. Just try your best. That's not good enough for them. Well, screw them. [01:33:53] Speaker B: Yep, yep, yep. And you know, drink the coffee, have the wine. I don't know, just honor yourself that smoke. [01:34:01] Speaker A: Have that time in the garage punching the boxing bag. [01:34:04] Speaker B: Yep. And oh, they do have those rage rooms, smashrooms and all. Being that being said, here's some rage against the machine with killing in the name. [01:34:16] Speaker A: Your voice, your community station. You are listening to IPL radio and. [01:34:24] Speaker B: You'Re back in the studio with all the things on a Tuesday night. You're with Jen and Liz. And that was 21 guns by Green Day. That was a good one. [01:34:34] Speaker A: I love a bit of Green Day. [01:34:36] Speaker B: I love me some Green Day. Actually. The music. Yay. Yep. The music tonight. Just getting the technical wave over there. Yeah. How are you liking the music? [01:34:47] Speaker A: I'm loving the music. I love me some rock. [01:34:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:34:50] Speaker A: I love the little slip in of Destiny's Child there before. [01:34:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:34:52] Speaker A: As requested. [01:34:53] Speaker B: Gotta love a little slip in, don't we? Terrible, terrible. Muriel yeah, we're having some good girly chats. Then was. Was interrupted by the song finishing, so. [01:35:06] Speaker A: We didn't want to leave you guys hanging again. [01:35:08] Speaker B: No, no, I mean, yeah. I've just decided that I'm now hungry and I want dinner as well. So I am actually hungry and I'm. Yeah. [01:35:17] Speaker A: Are you going to be making food at this time or. [01:35:20] Speaker B: I've still got some stew at home. Beef and veg and thyme stick in a microwave. What else have I got? I made pasta bake last night. That's in the fridge. I have some leftover Thai. I've got enough to choose from, I think. [01:35:32] Speaker A: So you got a variety? [01:35:34] Speaker B: I do have a variety. What are you having for. Oh, that's your. [01:35:36] Speaker A: That protein shake was probably. [01:35:38] Speaker B: Are you serious? [01:35:38] Speaker A: Yeah, I just. I don't have much of an appetite because of the nausea. [01:35:42] Speaker B: All right. [01:35:42] Speaker A: So because of the nausea, I just. That just makes me not hungry. [01:35:46] Speaker B: So do you have to take like Maxillin and. Or what's that? Stimital or whatever? [01:35:50] Speaker A: I don't even know what that is. [01:35:51] Speaker B: They're anti nausea tablets. [01:35:53] Speaker A: On Dancertron. Yes. On Dansatron. I've taken. I also take Sal Press. That helps with indigestion because I get really, really bad. [01:36:02] Speaker B: I mean, like next year. Yeah, yeah. [01:36:04] Speaker A: Oh, my God. [01:36:05] Speaker B: On the way here, just before leaving, I'm like, oh, my gosh, I've got the worst heartburn. And I got here and it was gone. [01:36:11] Speaker A: If I don't take my medication, it'll wake me up in the middle of the night and like severe pain and then it'll make me throw up. [01:36:18] Speaker B: Yeah, right. Yeah. Awesome, awesome. But, you know, so I've been. So you know what I do. So I've been going. I need to start really shielding my energy because I will feed everyone. I will feel everyone's stuff when I'm around them, to chest pains, to, you know, which parts of their body are aching and different things. [01:36:41] Speaker A: I didn't come in when I was sick. [01:36:42] Speaker B: Oh, I know, I know. Right. So, yeah, no, but, but that's a bit weird because like I had. And I don't. I had, yeah, indigestion, like heartburn on the way here. It was like just before I was like, what? But, yeah, and then I had a bit of nausea, so that's weird. Maybe that's you. It's just you, Liz. Well, yeah, so here at ipl, they're doing. They're going to be doing bios on the radio presenters. So we're going to have, of yeah, lovely. [01:37:12] Speaker A: Jen. Jen. [01:37:13] Speaker B: Oh, yeah, we're gonna have. We're gonna be on the web page. So I have to fill out some of these questions and then come in for an interview. I'm getting into it. [01:37:22] Speaker A: Pick one of the. [01:37:23] Speaker B: Oh, you want me to read out something? I wonder if I'm allowed to. [01:37:26] Speaker A: Fluffiest ones. [01:37:27] Speaker B: Fluffy one. [01:37:28] Speaker A: Yeah, the fluffiest. You know, like the puff yourself up the most. [01:37:32] Speaker B: What's a fun fact about me? Is that Fluffy. [01:37:35] Speaker A: It's fluffy. [01:37:36] Speaker B: Okay. [01:37:37] Speaker A: I feel like we could definitely get fluffier. [01:37:38] Speaker B: It's okay. Well, what is a fun fact about me? I don't even know what's fun. Everything. I'm fun with everything. [01:37:47] Speaker A: You're secretly a world renowned ice skater. [01:37:50] Speaker B: There is an ice skater here. [01:37:51] Speaker A: Oh, get out of it. [01:37:52] Speaker B: There really is. His name's Todd. Yeah, he's a figure ice skater. I swear to God. [01:38:00] Speaker A: Out of all the things that I could have said. [01:38:02] Speaker B: Yeah, all the things. There we go. Hang on, Wait, wait, wait. What is. What if. What? My hobbies and interests outside of ipl. Oh, do I have any hobbies? There's. [01:38:13] Speaker A: She's already said she likes sticking things in, so that's one. [01:38:23] Speaker B: I crochet. What else? I love cooking. What? What, what? What? What would you want to know? What? Like pick a. Pick a question. There. That is fluffy. In your opinion. [01:38:36] Speaker A: Fluff one. [01:38:37] Speaker B: So these are part of doing up bios. So anyone listening and anyone, if you have favorite presenters, you can learn all about us, what we want you to know. [01:38:47] Speaker A: Description of what your show is about and who do you aim to appeal to? [01:38:53] Speaker B: Everyone. [01:38:53] Speaker A: I mean with that dirty mouth of yours, I would behave be dirty minds in the gutters. [01:38:59] Speaker B: How can it be dirty? What? [01:39:02] Speaker A: I mean, have you heard your insinuations? [01:39:05] Speaker B: My. Oh, they're not insinuations. What are they? [01:39:08] Speaker A: They are word plays. [01:39:12] Speaker B: I don't know. That's just keeps life interesting, Liz. I reckon. I know. As we're nearing so we've got about. What have we got? 12 minutes to go. Let's play a few more songs and then we. We can sayonara for the evening because I am ready to have some leftovers. All right. Here's some heart shaped box. [01:39:33] Speaker A: Nana, your voice, your community station. You are listening to IPL radio and. [01:39:43] Speaker B: You'Re back in the studio with Jen, Jen and Liz for all the things Tuesday night. Sorry, I cut Guns N Roses short. That was a bit of a long version. [01:39:52] Speaker A: It's got a long end to it. [01:39:54] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:39:55] Speaker A: Guitar riff. [01:39:55] Speaker B: So I was Feeling a little lust like lackluster with the paradise city. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We just needed to wrap it up actually because we are two minutes from nine and that's the end of all the Things for Tuesday. [01:40:10] Speaker A: And I think Jen's actually looking forward to going home and getting in a PJs. [01:40:14] Speaker B: I am so looking forward to. Forward to my pajamas. I am such a pajama person this week. I don't know, beginning of school holidays. Yeah, yeah, I think so. [01:40:25] Speaker A: Lots of trackies and warm jumpers. [01:40:26] Speaker B: Yeah. But I hope everyone out there is staying warm, staying safe, staying sane. Yeah. And I hope you survive the school holidays. If not, if not having your own kids, then survive the retail or social aspects of being out there with all those kids running around and on all those sugar. All the things the kids are doing. I hope you survive them in all the ways that. That are happening. Yeah. So there was another. There was a little bit of talk around having a second all the Things show during the week. If anyone has any days they'd like to hear. I was thinking doing the same time slot on a Thursday that has just been opted. So I was thinking about making one a fun one. Well, fun all the time. [01:41:15] Speaker A: Oh my gosh. This is. [01:41:16] Speaker B: Oh my God. So, you know, basing one show around something fun and then basing the other one during the week around something informative. We try and keep everything informative and fun, but I mean, you know, we're going with the interviewing people and people that can help quality of your life and, and, and you know, what is that? Mindfulness. So, yeah, that's, that's the thoughts that I'm in at the moment. And I do have so many amazing people that I have been interviewing and we have a few co hosts. So it would be great to have that little rotation roster of different days, different subjects and different interviews and things going on. Yeah. Because I've had a few. I had to put back being sick and then having all the other stuff happen. So I do have those coming up. I will talk about those next week or next show. But yeah. So this is Jen. Jen and Liz with all the Things and wishing you a beautiful, warm and. [01:42:22] Speaker A: Safe week and a wonderful weekend. [01:42:25] Speaker B: There we go. Here's my favorite song. [01:42:28] Speaker A: Your voice, your community station. You are listening to IPL Radio.