Series 1 Episode1

[00:00:00] Speaker A: Your voice, your community station. You are listening to IPL radio. Well, hello everybody. It's really good to be back. And I'm here with Jen. [00:00:12] Speaker B: Hi, Jen. Hey. [00:00:14] Speaker C: How you doing? [00:00:15] Speaker A: I'm doing really, really well. It's so good to be back here with you and I'm glad we're going to do this project together. [00:00:19] Speaker C: I know. Same. I'm very excited. Very excited. [00:00:22] Speaker A: Really good to meet a sister from another mother. [00:00:25] Speaker C: I know, I know. It was just an instant family recognition when we met, wasn't it? [00:00:30] Speaker A: It was really. Aw. And because spiritually, you actually very well educated and you are very. You got a beautiful reputation yourself. And I had a couple of years of experience myself. So together we'll be able to deliver what people want and need. But what we want you to do, we want you to email us and ask us questions and do things. And eventually we'll be able to have the phone connected so we'll be able to as a call. But for now, we're going to do the snail trail. [00:00:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:00] Speaker A: Right to the station with your letters and questions. What you want to know, what you want to learn, what are your interests are, what are your experiences. Have you ever been to a haunted house? Halloween is coming. I want to. [00:01:11] Speaker C: I want to hear these. [00:01:12] Speaker A: Yes. [00:01:12] Speaker C: And we could use all those, all that feedback and make a really great Halloween show out of it. [00:01:18] Speaker A: That's right. And you know, we're here to help. We're here to answer your questions, we're here to help you find the answers. But also we want you to find peace and happiness in a sense of knowing who you are. [00:01:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:01:32] Speaker C: You know, yeah. No, I think that's important. And by interviewing other practitioners and healers who can share their knowledge and help people to really become the best versions of themselves as well. [00:01:45] Speaker A: I agree. Because it's such a vast variety of different modalities. [00:01:49] Speaker C: I know. [00:01:50] Speaker A: You know, we got shadow workers, we got life coach, we got Reiki, we got pranic. We. We have. I don't know, I just can't keep up. [00:01:57] Speaker C: Iridology, kinesiology. [00:01:59] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:02:00] Speaker C: Homeopathy, conscious access bars, practitioners. [00:02:03] Speaker B: Yes. [00:02:04] Speaker A: Yeah, we just got so many different people that are there. They're waiting to share their knowledge as well. And thank you for this platform to be created for us. I know to be able to deliver this to you and for you to share it. Now we are going to put this on our Facebook page. You can look me up on Facebook. It's Selva Dutton. And you can share whatever post we put up to help us to spread the word and be able to be there for whoever needs help as well. [00:02:30] Speaker C: Absolutely. And we'll create it. We'll create an email for the show so we can start getting the emails that we want. [00:02:36] Speaker A: That sounds good. [00:02:37] Speaker B: Yep. [00:02:38] Speaker C: Follow Selva. [00:02:39] Speaker A: You're not just a pretty face. [00:02:40] Speaker C: I'm not just a round face. No, I'm not. [00:02:42] Speaker A: There's more to you than meets the eye. [00:02:44] Speaker B: Yes. [00:02:47] Speaker C: I can do that while we're talking too. [00:02:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:02:49] Speaker C: I'm multi skilled. [00:02:50] Speaker A: She's multi talented. [00:02:51] Speaker B: Oh, yes, there we go. [00:02:53] Speaker A: Multitask. [00:02:53] Speaker C: I can. I can. [00:02:55] Speaker A: Wow. [00:02:55] Speaker C: Yes, I know. Isn't that amazing? [00:02:57] Speaker A: The average male cannot multitask. [00:02:59] Speaker C: I am very much aware of that one actually. [00:03:02] Speaker B: Huh. [00:03:02] Speaker A: Some can. [00:03:03] Speaker C: Some can. [00:03:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:05] Speaker C: We'll give shout out to them. [00:03:06] Speaker A: He can breathe and drink at the same time. Wow. [00:03:09] Speaker C: Bless him. That is a skill. [00:03:11] Speaker A: Amazing. [00:03:12] Speaker C: I believe I can do the same skill. [00:03:14] Speaker A: I'm gonna try. [00:03:15] Speaker C: I tell you. [00:03:15] Speaker A: I'm really gonna try, so. It's really, really good. So this week right now, I know we're getting close to Halloween, which is, you know that you know what the true meaning of Halloween is, right? It the day of the dead. [00:03:25] Speaker C: Yes, I do know this. [00:03:26] Speaker A: And of course beautiful family in America have made it a publicity. I think it's great. [00:03:31] Speaker C: They really go all out. Yes. [00:03:34] Speaker A: It really is about waking up the dead. But it's not about that in. I'm from South America. [00:03:38] Speaker B: Yes. [00:03:39] Speaker A: As you know. And of course, Halloween to us is a very special time. It's not a party going, get drunk, scare people. It's not that. [00:03:47] Speaker B: Right. [00:03:47] Speaker A: We actually go to the cemetery, have dinner at the cemetery. [00:03:51] Speaker C: I love that. You know, can we do that this year here? [00:03:53] Speaker A: Hey, we could do that, couldn't we? [00:03:55] Speaker C: Can I come? I want to. [00:03:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:03:57] Speaker A: So we just go to the. We go to the cemetery to one of your loved ones graves. [00:04:02] Speaker B: Okay. [00:04:02] Speaker A: But your love wasn't not bearing the same cemetery as mine. I got some in Collie. [00:04:08] Speaker B: Yep. [00:04:08] Speaker A: Yeah, I've got some in Collie. [00:04:10] Speaker B: Okay. [00:04:10] Speaker A: And I've got some in Karrakatta. [00:04:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:12] Speaker A: And I've got some in Fremantle. [00:04:14] Speaker B: Yep. Okay. I've got a few there too. [00:04:16] Speaker A: So we've got to find a place where we can both have some sort of. [00:04:19] Speaker C: I think. [00:04:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:19] Speaker C: Caricature's got a lot of history because that's the one next to the hospital I used to work at Charlie's and. [00:04:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:27] Speaker C: Oh, that place is haunted. So haunted. Yeah, I've got some great stories. Oh, that place was ridiculous because you. [00:04:33] Speaker A: Know, Charles Gardens Are very interesting. [00:04:36] Speaker C: So originally it was the Tuberculosis Hospital of Perth. [00:04:40] Speaker A: Exactly, yeah. [00:04:40] Speaker C: In AR block. And that was the original hospital. So when they've actually converted our block now to obviously there's a whole Alphabet there. So R block is Right. You know, and it's actually accounts. [00:04:52] Speaker B: And there's a. [00:04:53] Speaker C: There's a social club at the. At the bottom with a bar and an outdoor. And pool table and everything. [00:04:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:04:58] Speaker C: But upstairs. So ground floor, not a problem. I can do ground floor up to the fourth floor. Fourth floor is so haunted. I actually give it legs one time. The doors were slamming, the toilets were flushing, the music was coming on and off, and I had someone pushing me and I'm like, I'm out of here. [00:05:14] Speaker B: Down. [00:05:14] Speaker C: I ran. I ran down four flights of stairs. [00:05:17] Speaker A: Oh, God. We will say. [00:05:18] Speaker C: I know, I know. But that was when I didn't have a very compassionate worker with me. And they were really pulling the piss out of me. So I'm just like, I can't do with this. And I'm like, give it legs. And then I had to obviously finish my job. But yes, very haunted. Very haunted. Lots of stories. Lots of stories from there. [00:05:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:05:35] Speaker A: I tell you where it's very, very haunted is the. One of the jails, the old jails in Darwin. I went to visit that not that long ago. My husband said, let's go on a tour. And while I was in Darwin and we went into this trail. Remember what it's called? It's in Funny Bay. [00:05:51] Speaker C: Funny Bay. [00:05:52] Speaker A: Fanny Bay. [00:05:53] Speaker C: Fanny Bay. [00:05:54] Speaker A: Fanny Bay. [00:05:55] Speaker C: There's a Fanny Bay in Darwin. [00:05:56] Speaker A: Fanny Bay. There's a Funny B. And they've got the best coffee shop. I tell you, it's amazing. But next, about half a kilometer from the coffee shop, there's a. A prison, an old prison that they used to. They put all the. During World War II, they put all the Germans there and the Japanese there and stuff. Like they were living in Australia. They were all just jailed in there. [00:06:17] Speaker B: Right. Oh, okay. [00:06:18] Speaker A: And of course, I went to have a look and I wasn't ready for it. I wasn't expecting it. I didn't know what. We're doing that. And we went in and we're walking everywhere and I said to my husband, I don't like this. I just don't like this. I can hear kids crying. Yeah, that one woman screaming. Yeah, I can hear. Because the male and female prison. [00:06:39] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [00:06:40] Speaker A: It was crazy. And it was just really makes you think, you know, what the people went through. [00:06:48] Speaker C: Do you get the feelings of what they Were experiencing, like, if you have the visits. [00:06:51] Speaker A: And I was. I was in tears. [00:06:52] Speaker B: Yes. [00:06:53] Speaker A: By the time I walked in there, I went to the confined space for the. The solitary environment space. [00:07:01] Speaker B: Yep. [00:07:01] Speaker A: And I went into there and I walked in and I felt like something just grabbed me. And I just had to walk in and said to Brad, I can't do this. I gotta leave. [00:07:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:09] Speaker A: And I could hear these women crying because the children, their babies were taken away from them. [00:07:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:15] Speaker A: A women got pregnant during that time away. You know, they were just taken from them. They were never to be seen again. So the babies were stolen from them naturally. And it was just so incredible. And before that, it was a normal person, like a Australian. [00:07:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:32] Speaker C: Right. [00:07:32] Speaker A: But when the war broke out, because they used it for the. You know. [00:07:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:37] Speaker A: I don't know what they call them. [00:07:38] Speaker C: Like a refugee thingy. [00:07:39] Speaker A: That's it. [00:07:40] Speaker B: There you go. [00:07:40] Speaker A: That's the word I was looking for. [00:07:42] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:07:43] Speaker A: Oh. [00:07:43] Speaker C: Between the pair of us, we'll get it. [00:07:47] Speaker A: But that place is really. I would love to go there at night. I mean, actually do a ceremony and heal it, actually. [00:07:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:07:54] Speaker C: Because then. [00:07:55] Speaker A: Because what happens, you know, what places are haunted, you know that? [00:07:58] Speaker C: Because they can't. They're stuck, aren't they? [00:08:01] Speaker A: They're stuck. Some people don't even know they're dead. [00:08:03] Speaker B: Yes. [00:08:04] Speaker C: Yes. [00:08:05] Speaker A: And some people, they got things to resolve. [00:08:08] Speaker B: Right. Yeah. Yeah. [00:08:09] Speaker C: So they're trying to connect in. [00:08:11] Speaker A: Some have got things that need to resolve. [00:08:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:13] Speaker A: Things they need to make peace with. [00:08:15] Speaker B: Right. [00:08:16] Speaker A: You know, so you. You got to communicate with them and talk to them and try and find a sense of peaceful space and just sort of like bring that into a climax type of thing. So they can see the light and they can go to the. They can be completely peaceful. [00:08:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:29] Speaker A: In space. You know, and of course, there are a lot that are very angry because they realize they're dead and I'm stuck in this. [00:08:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:36] Speaker C: So then they just kind of want to wreak a bit of habit. [00:08:38] Speaker A: That's when the poltergeist take place, because it's a lot of anger. So then you got to come and down. [00:08:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:43] Speaker A: You've got to calm him down and you've got to bring him into a true sense of wellness. [00:08:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:48] Speaker A: You know, even spirits need healing. [00:08:50] Speaker C: And that's part of having the gift, is giving that gift of. Of healing them so they can transition. [00:08:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:08:56] Speaker A: It's not just a case of just healing the earthly. [00:08:58] Speaker C: No. [00:08:59] Speaker A: Healing the spirit ones at the same time. [00:09:00] Speaker B: No. [00:09:01] Speaker C: I've just done a House clearing recently and had to do the same thing. And there was some. There was some brutal stuff that happened in this house, and it just had the most dense energy. And I actually had to run out of the house initially. [00:09:12] Speaker A: Wow. [00:09:12] Speaker C: Because I wasn't brought there to do the cleansing. I was brought there just to suss it out. And I had to like, whoa. And I'm like, I gotta come back, but I need to prepare myself. But there was a lot of horrible stuff that happened. So to be able to let them, you know, heal them so they can move on and not bring that energy, keep that energy in that home. And. But I'll talk to you more about that. But, yeah, it is a blessing. It is a gift, and it is great that we get to do this. [00:09:38] Speaker A: It is. We are so, so lucky. [00:09:40] Speaker C: Have you done the ghost tours in Midland? [00:09:43] Speaker A: No, I haven't done much improvement. [00:09:45] Speaker C: Yeah, well, I did it. [00:09:46] Speaker A: I did the ghost tour in Bunbury for. When I was doing the radio show at Radio West. But it's not called Radio west now. It's called Triple M now. [00:09:54] Speaker B: Oh. Yeah. [00:09:55] Speaker A: But I. I did Radio west for 10 years with Cliff Reeves. And so we did a ghost tour around the town, finding the haunted place around Bunbury and that. [00:10:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:10:04] Speaker A: And there was a bridge that's. A lot of homeless people died under the bridge. [00:10:09] Speaker C: Oh, okay. [00:10:10] Speaker A: So we went over there and with me and a couple of other people that were there, and we sort of blessed that area and sort of healed it. And so there was. It was just a beautiful experience to be able to. To rectify it and then a little bit. Don't leave it haunted. I said, no. How would you like to be stuck in a cage? [00:10:30] Speaker C: I know, right? [00:10:31] Speaker A: And not be able to find where I'd never find peace. [00:10:33] Speaker C: Could you imagine going to these places, going on these tours, healing the. The spirits? [00:10:38] Speaker A: Nobody will ask you again. [00:10:39] Speaker C: They won't. [00:10:40] Speaker A: They don't. You ruined it for us. You killed our business. [00:10:43] Speaker C: I know. When I went to the Midland Town Hall 1, I went. I think it was about four or five years ago now. I was sitting there, and they're doing the intro and they're talking about what they're going to do and that. And I'm sitting there and I'm trying to ignore this boy right next to me. And I'm like, can you just. And he wouldn't stop touching my leg. And the lady's talking, and she goes, can you see him? And I'm like, yeah. He's like, he won't leave me alone. She goes, oh, we're gonna have fun with you tonight. And. Oh, my gosh, yeah, from then on, it was like, all on, you know, so. Yeah, no, it is. It is quite interesting. It would be interesting to go there with you and do this. [00:11:16] Speaker A: I would love it. I would love it. [00:11:18] Speaker C: I think we should plan that. [00:11:19] Speaker A: We could. [00:11:19] Speaker C: We could bring all the equipment and make a thing out of it. [00:11:24] Speaker A: Make a show from. [00:11:24] Speaker C: Make a podcast with video, too. We're actually recording tonight, so this will be available soon. Yes, it's good, you know, so not only you get to hear us, but you'll get to see us as well. [00:11:35] Speaker A: I know. I better not pick my nose. [00:11:38] Speaker C: Remind me not to. [00:11:41] Speaker A: So that's all good. It's really good. It fix us. It's really good to have it recorded so we can have a look at it later. [00:11:45] Speaker B: Yeah, I know. [00:11:46] Speaker C: Because some of the things that come up during a show unplanned for, obviously, can be so helpful that, you know, you can just think, oh, you wish you had a listen to this. [00:11:56] Speaker B: This show. [00:11:57] Speaker C: So we should name each show. Wish you had a listen to this show. And then you could, like, say, go onto my YouTube and watch this one. And I think that'll really help you, you know? You know, we've. I've interviewed a few different people, and I'm sure we're going to interview some amazing people. We've got some really great things in the. In the pipelines, so it's. We won't talk about now, but we do have some great ideas. We've got some great things coming up. [00:12:19] Speaker A: If you do know anybody's actually legit and people that actually care and they want to get the message out, let us know. [00:12:25] Speaker C: We'd love to have. [00:12:26] Speaker A: You might have a special guest sometime. You never know. [00:12:28] Speaker C: Yes, it would be so cool. Absolutely. [00:12:31] Speaker B: Yeah. Yep. [00:12:32] Speaker C: So I'm gonna chuck on a song. We'll play Blink 182 with all the small things, and we'll be back after this. [00:12:39] Speaker A: All right. More music, Better Mental health. Only on IPL Radio. Well, we are back. Isn't it wonderful to be back now? We're very, very fortunate. Somebody send us a question which we will deal with. We'll break it down in half so we can deal with one half and then the other half, and they will amalgamate it together so you can have a better understanding. Okay. [00:13:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:13:02] Speaker A: Now, this, this. This is for one particular person, but I'm going to generalize it a little bit just in case some of the people are going through similar Things I'm only gonna. I'm not gonna only put it on that person's energy because it might help more. There are other people, and plus that person's not here, and I don't want to just go into that person's space. Just only type of thing. Okay. [00:13:25] Speaker B: Okay. [00:13:25] Speaker C: So do you want me to read out the question? [00:13:26] Speaker A: Yeah, read the first half. [00:13:28] Speaker C: So how do you know if you're a dark empath with a bit of light in you or a light empath with a bit of dark in you? Either. Either. They're struggling with the stuff they're hearing. [00:13:40] Speaker A: So if you are aware of it, you definitely are a light empath. You're a light empath. You're not a dark empath at all. What is happening in the world out there? There's a war going on. The dark and light. [00:13:51] Speaker B: Yes. [00:13:52] Speaker A: And the dark does not want the light to succeed. So the dark will do anything possible to prevent the light from shining. So the only one is to find that moments of your weakness that they can penetrate into the. The darkness tries to penetrate into the light. So you do go dark a little bit. But then when you. Your inner self, your higher self becomes aware of it, your light fights it in and you come out and you do the good thing. So you are always the good first before you are the bad anyway. But the bad does not want you too deep in. Now, there's many reasons why that could have happened, all right? It can happen with people because when they're young and foolish, they go into naughty things and they. This. They don't respect themselves. They might go into drinking, drugs, all sorts of things. Stealing, thieving, lying. Just things that are negative enough that we do, and that actually strengthens the negative vibration within ourselves. [00:14:52] Speaker C: So that would then increase the dark side. [00:14:54] Speaker A: That increases the dark of it. That really increases the dark of it. [00:14:57] Speaker B: Right. [00:14:59] Speaker A: Another way that actually happens as well is if you are aware of your light and then you start doing readings or things like that when you've been drinking or having a bit of hooch or whatever, if you start doing spiritual. [00:15:13] Speaker B: Work. [00:15:15] Speaker A: And you intended to do good work, but you're doing it when you're not in complete control of your being, which means. Straight. [00:15:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:22] Speaker A: Straight. [00:15:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:15:24] Speaker A: Then you will a lot. Then you will approach the darkness and you will really strengthen the darkness. [00:15:29] Speaker B: Right. [00:15:29] Speaker C: Because you can. When you're opening that channel. [00:15:31] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:15:31] Speaker C: Because you're intoxicated or whatever. Whatever you can bring through those dark energies. And that will then overpower anything. [00:15:40] Speaker A: That's right. And the Dark will be stronger than the light at that point in time because you are intoxicated or you're not in your true form. [00:15:47] Speaker B: Okay. [00:15:47] Speaker C: And you're not at the peak strength to even be aware or resist it. [00:15:52] Speaker A: Exactly. And that's what really happened. Also, there are people that don't have an option to develop this psychic being. All right. And it's got nothing to do with being intoxicated or anything like that. Some people are very blessed and very gifted. [00:16:07] Speaker B: Yes. [00:16:08] Speaker A: And the dark side, you know, becomes aware that this person could be powerful, could be strong, could help many people, could actually change people's lives, could make this world a better place. Oh, my God. We can't do that. We got to stop this person. So then the dark actually comes to you because it doesn't want you to develop or grow or evolve into your greatness. [00:16:29] Speaker C: And I find, like, the stronger or the. The more light you shine, I find that the more times you're going to encounter these things trying to come at you, because it's like you're this bright, beautiful flame and these moths just come and stuff, you know, and all the dark things happen. [00:16:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:48] Speaker A: So. So that. That is what. But you always are a light empath. Always. [00:16:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:16:53] Speaker A: And the dark comes after the light itself. [00:16:55] Speaker C: So if you're hearing things. So I do have a little bit of feedback. If you're hearing both light and dark things due to their families, ancestral powers and gifts, I. They know the difference. But how am I supposed to not listen to one side? Well, I guess that's up to what you're hearing. I guess you're hearing them for a reason. [00:17:17] Speaker A: Everything. Everything you're told is important. It's right. It is a reason. [00:17:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:22] Speaker A: And not. Not knowing, you, not being with it makes it a little bit hard because I don't know what you're hearing as such. [00:17:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:17:30] Speaker A: So I would need to sort of. I need to feel you to sort of see. Okay. What you're hearing and stuff like that. And yes, we do need. Need to listen to. To both sides. But then you got. You got to make the choice which one you've got to take on and which one you're not going to take. [00:17:47] Speaker C: The fact that they're voicing that they know that it's both light and dark. [00:17:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:17:51] Speaker C: So they know the difference. [00:17:53] Speaker A: Oh, they know that. [00:17:53] Speaker C: So that's already a sign that you are aware of both coming at you. You're being told these different things for a reason. [00:18:01] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:18:02] Speaker C: And it's up to you to filter them in the way that is going to be best. [00:18:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:07] Speaker A: You know, the beautiful thing about it, about you being truly aware of the light and the dark and that you will have a good sense of judgment on other people as well. You'll be able to sense if someone is not right in your space as well. So trust your intuition at your own space when you feel uncomfortable regarding somebody. [00:18:26] Speaker B: Yes. [00:18:26] Speaker A: Or whatever it might be. [00:18:27] Speaker C: This is something that I've actually ignored quite a bit because I'm like, I want to see the beautiful side of all the best in people. Bloody hell. I could kick myself. Oh my gosh. [00:18:36] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:18:36] Speaker C: Yes, we do. [00:18:37] Speaker A: We do that. I mean, I had. The most recent one is like, I helped someone that was homeless and I helped them and I allowed them to stay somewhere for me and stuff like that. I didn't get rent of them or anything to help you. And then at the time, when the time came when I needed help, that person was neither. That just packed up the stuff and left. [00:18:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:18:57] Speaker C: Oh, no. [00:18:58] Speaker A: You know, why didn't I listen to myself? You know, instead of feeling sorry for someone, just don't just listen to yourself. People are in this situation because they. Whatever they do what. You know, the consequences to every action that you take. [00:19:10] Speaker C: And quite often as a healer and a rescuer, we tend to, you know, we can run into someone's aid, but then once you're done with that help, they will just turn their back on you. [00:19:20] Speaker B: Yes. [00:19:21] Speaker C: So. And you're also depriving them of that learning experience of finding their own strength and their source of. To resilience, to. To process and get through a situation. So if you go in and rescue someone, you're taking away that lesson from them. [00:19:38] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:38] Speaker C: And that's something I never actually thought about until I had Tim in here for an interview one time. He talked about the. The triangle, you know, the victim, the rescuer. [00:19:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:19:49] Speaker C: And. And the aggressor. [00:19:51] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:19:51] Speaker C: And I was like, I was wowed by that explanation. And that made me think about. Yeah. Helping people in a different way. [00:19:57] Speaker A: But you got to be grateful. I mean, if you, if you do it, everything you do in life is because you need to do it for whatever the experience is. [00:20:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:03] Speaker A: So what I do, I just, I was like, gee, thank you. I'm so glad I learned from that. [00:20:07] Speaker B: Yeah. And. [00:20:07] Speaker A: And learned. Understand. But if you, you. That person will never leave on a complete negative like it arrived. It will always have some positive in them. [00:20:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:16] Speaker A: You know, you just, you just sort of pray that they actually see that and they can actually move on forward and find the path to follow not by ulterior motive, but by the core of their individuality. [00:20:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:26] Speaker A: You know, you can take a horse of water, but you can't make a drink, Right? [00:20:29] Speaker C: That is correct. [00:20:30] Speaker A: So all you got to do, as long as you. You work from the heart and you helping somebody find themselves, you'll be able to move on forward and. And give. Give thanks for having bad experience or good experience. Be grateful for the experience you had, but take that moment to assimilate and understand. Okay, this happened because. [00:20:48] Speaker C: Yes. And so we were talking about this on the weekend when I came for a visit. [00:20:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:20:52] Speaker C: Because you were helping me with a bit of clarity. Thank you so much. And I realized I have to be thankful for those moments as well. How difficult they are, how uncomfortable they are, because that's part of my growth as well. And so learning about why I put myself out there and help people or do things, and then it's like, oh, why do they keep doing this? And why does this happen? It's because I need to learn that lesson and gain that strength and that sense of knowledge and apply that. And if I don't. And that's a blessing in itself. Okay, thank you for. You know, I asked for strength, so I get sent lessons. [00:21:30] Speaker B: Yep. [00:21:30] Speaker C: You know. You know, and so it's up to me to gain that strength through those lessons. And so therefore, you have to be thankful. Doesn't matter how crap the lesson is because you asked for it, you know, and so that is a great way of looking at things. [00:21:48] Speaker A: And a lot of it is like, practice what you preach. You know, you're forever telling your brothers, protect yourself. Listen to yourself. You know, don't do that. Don't give or don't give your power and stuff like that. And then we do it and you go, wow, you know, then we got to take that step back and say, okay, let's assimilate this. Let's break this down. What did I do? I know I did exactly the opposite of what I helped someone else to do. [00:22:07] Speaker B: Yes. [00:22:08] Speaker A: So I've got to rectify that. [00:22:09] Speaker C: I'm so crap like that. I've been so. That is one of my things. [00:22:13] Speaker A: And Teddy agrees. Teddy, yeah, Teddy agrees. [00:22:16] Speaker C: Wealth of knowledge over there. [00:22:17] Speaker B: Teddy. [00:22:17] Speaker C: Thanks for that. [00:22:18] Speaker A: He's very wise. You know, he listens. He's just sitting there telling me, taking it all in. [00:22:23] Speaker B: Yep. [00:22:23] Speaker C: Telling me, jen, you got to listen to this. Because you keep doing this. And I'm like, I'm not doing this anymore, Teddy. I swear, that's It. [00:22:29] Speaker A: That's it. We promised. I mean, I promised him that I was going to be good. Yeah, it's going to be good. [00:22:34] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:22:34] Speaker C: No, I have started to look at things in a positive, even for the negative things that happen. I have. And, you know, because I've had, you know, three, three nearly four weeks of being sick. And I do apologize if you do hear me cough. I am trying to mute it. I am getting over having that respiratory virus. It's been so bad. But through this three or four weeks, I have been doing a lot of healing physically, but also spiritually and emotionally and doing all those. All the things. And. Yeah, so one of those things I've been able to adapt is to think about the positive from every negative and same in the retrospect, in the contrast. You can't have light without dark. You can't have positive without negative. So you have to see the good side of everything. So even through those negative things or the. Or the dark things, there's always something positive to be gained. And I think that. And we did just get a big thanks for that explanation. Too. [00:23:34] Speaker A: Beautiful. [00:23:35] Speaker C: It was bugging them and it's been stressing. Stressing him out. It made it more logical and explains why some of the messages they get is for others. I did actually get a message from them. [00:23:45] Speaker A: So. [00:23:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:45] Speaker C: Thank you for your message this week. It was quite bizarre that you were able to share that. [00:23:49] Speaker A: Well, I hope we can meet. I hope I can meet you one day. [00:23:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:23:53] Speaker A: Because Jen, let me know what your name is. But we do. We will not say names on air, everybody. All right. We always keep the names to ourselves because that's a privacy thing. And I would love to meet you. I really would love to meet you one day. [00:24:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:06] Speaker C: And I've got here. What is this? As an empath for light, I feel like a warrior against the dark quite often. I think we all do. And in a way for me to win, I look at the dark and figure out why it's here, then move it on. A lot of what I'm told and learn, I don't tell others as it would break them and I don't wish to cause pain. Definitely. And you can name me, you know, are you. [00:24:30] Speaker A: Don't. Don't look at it as a competition that you're going to win or lose. No, just look at it. It's acknowledge. Acknowledge what is writing what is not right for you. There's no win or lose in the spiritual realm type of thing. [00:24:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:24:44] Speaker A: It is just what is right for you. And what is not right for you. [00:24:46] Speaker C: But yeah, I think as light workers and people, that you probably do feel like a warrior against things, but it's not necessarily like that. I think we're just here to shed light and to be the light. [00:24:58] Speaker A: You know, I. I truly believe that the strongest people are. Are chosen. [00:25:03] Speaker B: Yes. [00:25:04] Speaker A: For to be able to cope with all that. I mean, some people with. With your situation would go stir crazy. [00:25:11] Speaker B: Yes. [00:25:12] Speaker A: You know, with all these voices in their head, especially when they end up in. In. [00:25:18] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:25:20] Speaker C: You know, there's a door with my name on it. [00:25:22] Speaker A: I'm sure you were able to actually say, I'm hearing it. I'm not crazy. I'm hearing it. I know it's really real, you know, which it means you. You're gifted. [00:25:31] Speaker B: Yes. [00:25:31] Speaker A: Greatly gifted in some way. And it's just a case of learning that you will stand up to the darkness and let the light come in. Now, I do a lot of exorcisms. You know, one of the biggest thing with exorcisms. [00:25:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:25:44] Speaker A: You got to be careful. You cannot, Cannot have fear. [00:25:47] Speaker C: Yes. [00:25:48] Speaker A: Against the darkness, that's weakness. So you got to have that strength, you know, and you got to go. No, I'm just. I'm just good. I'm the good and you're the bad. And you're going and I'm staying. [00:25:59] Speaker C: And you have to have the confidence. [00:26:01] Speaker A: You gotta have that. That space. In my last retreat in Bali, as it happens, there was a girl that was possessed by evil spirit. [00:26:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:11] Speaker A: And I was. She walked upstairs to bring the water up. [00:26:15] Speaker B: Right. Yeah. [00:26:17] Speaker A: For us. Because she worked in the establishment. [00:26:19] Speaker B: Okay. Yep. [00:26:20] Speaker A: You know, and I looked at her and I said to my driver, I have spared white clothes. This. Charlie, go and give this to her. Go and give Julie this. Her name was Julie. Can give Julie this kidder. To put. Be fully dressed in white and even no underwear underneath because she's got black underwear. Just wear no other. It's okay. And they'll come up with white. But don't say anything or just tell to put that on. I didn't explain anything to him what was going to happen or anything. [00:26:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:26:53] Speaker A: But he's a great healer himself. He's an amazing healer. Hey, I've done a lot of work with Charlie over there and. And he cop back down the stairs and he go, I know what you should doing. [00:27:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:05] Speaker A: He said, that's right. I can't tell her. I can't tell her. Because what happens if you go to someone and say I do believe you're carrying a spirit, and I'm going to take it out. The spirit will hear that. [00:27:17] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. [00:27:18] Speaker A: So therefore, we'll do anything to get. [00:27:20] Speaker C: You distracted and redirected to throw you off. [00:27:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:24] Speaker A: You know? [00:27:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:25] Speaker A: So you've got us sort of coming through the back door to get them into us. [00:27:29] Speaker C: You've got to surprise them or shock them. [00:27:31] Speaker A: Surprise them at first, you know? [00:27:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:33] Speaker A: And she came up as sweetest anything. And she came up with this, Mama, why, why, why me in white? I said, because you're going to help me. I'm going to get you to help me. I think she goes, great. You know, I'm going to demonstrate something to the group and you're going to help me do it. [00:27:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:27:53] Speaker A: So they can watch. What? Yeah, you do it with me. But I don't know anything, Mama. Oh, you do. [00:28:00] Speaker B: You do. [00:28:00] Speaker A: You do more, don't you? And then he knew and her eyes changed. [00:28:07] Speaker B: Right. [00:28:08] Speaker A: And then up. When I do exorcism on the floor, I got goosebumps. [00:28:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:28:14] Speaker A: And then I've got her to step into the triangle. I want you to stand here. And then she. She was standing there. And one of the girls that was comes to my retreat. She's my assistant. I wouldn't dare go anywhere without her. When I got. When I know I'm going to do things like that, I didn't know I was going to do that. But just in case, because she knows exactly what to do. So I said, such and such. Stand behind her and don't let her fall because the concrete floor didn't want to hit the ground. [00:28:39] Speaker B: Yep, yep. [00:28:41] Speaker A: In the internal. Said, get out of my space. Oh, really clear English language. [00:28:48] Speaker B: And. Yeah, right. [00:28:50] Speaker A: And I got no, it's time for you to go home. And I keep calm. I really do keep calm. [00:28:56] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [00:28:57] Speaker A: I'm very calm, very calm until they really push my buttons. Yeah, right. And then, of course, then I'm really, really on your face. Like, really, really on your face. [00:29:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:08] Speaker C: This is so cool, man. [00:29:10] Speaker A: My girlfriend, she. I mean, she knew I did, except she never actually. I mean, I taught her everything, but she never actually got to do. That was the first time she actually got to do it. And she says, oh, my God. I think I was more scared than what. She was petrified because she didn't know what was going on. [00:29:25] Speaker C: It would be quite confronting to watch the. Something like that. [00:29:27] Speaker A: It is. But the thing is, you. You got to do it and you got to stay strong. [00:29:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:31] Speaker A: And you got to stay strong and sometimes you might feel, well, I've been nasty. No, no, you're not being nasty. You're standing your ground. There's a difference between being bad and another one standing your ground. You got to stand your ground. This a holy place. This is blessed. [00:29:44] Speaker B: Y. [00:29:45] Speaker A: And then, of course, you just chuck. You know, bless water on them. [00:29:49] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. [00:29:49] Speaker A: And they don't like it. [00:29:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:51] Speaker A: You force them to drink it. Who. They hate that even. [00:29:53] Speaker C: So do you take less water with you everywhere you go? [00:29:56] Speaker A: I bless it everywhere I go. I always make sure that I buy water. [00:29:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:29:59] Speaker A: Bottled water. And then there's a special thing that I do. Bless my water. [00:30:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:04] Speaker A: Everywhere I go. [00:30:05] Speaker B: Okay. [00:30:06] Speaker A: Because you never know when you're gonna do it. [00:30:08] Speaker C: Yeah. So. Well, with that example, like, so you just were aware of her having. [00:30:16] Speaker A: When she came up, I saw a shadow behind her. [00:30:19] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [00:30:21] Speaker A: But it wasn't in. It was walking. [00:30:22] Speaker C: It's just like a little delayed shadow. [00:30:25] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:30:25] Speaker A: It's like, you know how you. [00:30:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:27] Speaker A: You see K. You see the thing, the follower. And that's what it was like the follow. And I said, oh, my God. [00:30:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:33] Speaker C: Cuz. Yeah, cuz I can pick up on attachments and entities on people. [00:30:38] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:30:39] Speaker C: And, you know, you can help work with them. But I haven't seen that. Or maybe I. It's probably. [00:30:45] Speaker A: That was very interesting. Not all it was. It was a. A friend of a husband that died that did not want to be dead. So it was looking for a new home. [00:30:53] Speaker B: Really. Yeah. Right. [00:30:54] Speaker C: And how did she feel afterwards? Like, how long did the process take? [00:30:58] Speaker A: Well, I asked her husband, how long has Julie been behaving like that? She's about six weeks. [00:31:04] Speaker C: Yeah, right. [00:31:05] Speaker A: She's been. She's been weird and change and she wouldn't let me touch her or anything or. [00:31:10] Speaker C: And it was his friend. [00:31:12] Speaker A: Yeah, it was his friend that passed. Yeah. The past, you know, so it's really horrible. And I said, okay, well, let's just. Let's just. Let's just deal with it. [00:31:23] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:31:24] Speaker A: You know? [00:31:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:31:25] Speaker A: And I said, how am I going to do this? So I had to wait until I saw it to be able to do it. So then it took a couple of days. [00:31:31] Speaker C: So weird. I've just got a completely numb jaw right now. This is bizarre. My whole face is tingling right here. That's so weird. Yeah. So with that, like, it just baffles me that someone's friend would pass and then attached to their partner and be somewhat demonic. How does that happen? [00:31:50] Speaker A: It's not that it was like the one. [00:31:53] Speaker C: Because it wasn't. [00:31:54] Speaker A: It wasn't that. Didn't want to be dead. [00:31:56] Speaker C: Didn't want to be dead. And was angry. [00:31:58] Speaker A: Was angry. [00:31:59] Speaker C: Okay. [00:31:59] Speaker B: All right. [00:31:59] Speaker A: Was angry more than anything. [00:32:00] Speaker C: So like a possession. [00:32:01] Speaker A: It didn't want to be dead. It just want to be dead. And. And of course, in Bali, like in every country, even in Australia, there's a lot of. [00:32:08] Speaker C: Very spiritual, though. [00:32:10] Speaker A: It is very spiritual. [00:32:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:11] Speaker A: It's. It's an amazing. So best place. When I run retreats down there. It's just amazing because. [00:32:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:18] Speaker A: You get the complete energy. [00:32:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:20] Speaker A: The beautiful, peaceful. [00:32:22] Speaker B: I've never been. [00:32:23] Speaker A: It's amazing. Oh, man. You haven't lived. [00:32:25] Speaker C: I know. Everyone's telling me that now. Do you have, like, healers that you love visiting when you're over there? [00:32:30] Speaker A: Yes, I do have in the non tourist healers. [00:32:33] Speaker C: Okay, so they're private ones. [00:32:34] Speaker A: They're private ones. They. They're traditional Balinese healers. [00:32:39] Speaker B: Right. [00:32:40] Speaker A: So there. I mean, there are a lot of tourist healers. [00:32:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:43] Speaker A: But you won't know whether you're getting the real McCoy or not. [00:32:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:46] Speaker C: Okay. [00:32:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:32:47] Speaker C: No, I have heard of the most interesting one that. [00:32:49] Speaker A: That I saw was a y. N. There's 2,000 y. And so everybody's yn, maday, adi, either they all got specific names. [00:32:59] Speaker B: Right. [00:32:59] Speaker A: And so what's A. Yeah, YN is number one. [00:33:02] Speaker B: Okay. [00:33:03] Speaker C: Right. [00:33:03] Speaker A: That's the name for the first born. [00:33:05] Speaker C: Oh, okay. [00:33:06] Speaker A: Okay. If they tell you my name is wise. Oh, you must be the first one in your family. [00:33:10] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. [00:33:11] Speaker A: Medea is the second one. Katu is the third one. [00:33:13] Speaker B: Okay. [00:33:14] Speaker C: And does that also depict the level of gifts or. Not necessarily. [00:33:21] Speaker A: Just. [00:33:21] Speaker C: Just the order of birth. [00:33:23] Speaker A: And then you've got the holy mens. [00:33:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:25] Speaker A: You know, they say watis. [00:33:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:28] Speaker A: You know, that's a different thing altogether. So I got a. A beautiful holy name. His name is Ida. And he's. It's just beautiful. And his English is getting better and better all the time. [00:33:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:39] Speaker A: And. And they do the way they work. But the most thing. The most. The most interesting healer I've ever met who. His past now died on the bombing. [00:33:48] Speaker B: Oh, really? [00:33:48] Speaker A: He had dogs. Used to have dogs for healing. He had five dogs. [00:33:54] Speaker B: Y. [00:33:55] Speaker A: He will sit on his chair. [00:33:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:33:58] Speaker C: In his temple thing, surrounded by. [00:33:59] Speaker A: And he was surrounded by his dogs. [00:34:01] Speaker C: I just saw that, as you said that. I was just like, I could see this. [00:34:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:04] Speaker A: And the. That people will walk in. [00:34:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:07] Speaker A: And they will sit there and he'll just pat all the dogs. [00:34:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:13] Speaker A: And says Go to the ones that need my help. [00:34:15] Speaker B: Right. [00:34:16] Speaker A: And the dogs will go over there. [00:34:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:18] Speaker A: And just bite your skirt and pull you to him. [00:34:21] Speaker C: Oh, wow. [00:34:22] Speaker A: And then. [00:34:23] Speaker C: That's very cool. [00:34:24] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:34:24] Speaker A: And then the, the dog, if the dog wanted to lie on you, he knew the dog was doing some healing. [00:34:30] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. [00:34:31] Speaker A: You know, and it's like he would use dogs as well as himself. That was the most amazing. I just sat there watching all. I just watching all, you know, and then they say, you'll come back and help me once. You say? I say, yeah, I'll be back. I'll be back. [00:34:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. [00:34:48] Speaker A: You know, I'm a junkie when it comes to healing. [00:34:50] Speaker B: Oh, yes, yes. [00:34:52] Speaker C: So it's a beautiful feeling. [00:34:53] Speaker A: It's so, so incredible to watch to use animals and stuff like that. [00:34:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:34:57] Speaker A: That's, you know, and it's, it's, it's good. You never, you never know. [00:35:01] Speaker C: You never know because, I mean, animals do have so many great healing qualities as just normal pets. They just have that ability. You're beautiful dogs. Oh, my gosh. [00:35:11] Speaker A: Yeah. The deaf one, special. She's a really good healing dog. [00:35:14] Speaker C: She was gorgeous. She. I just was besotted with her when I. Yeah. When I met her. [00:35:20] Speaker A: So, yeah, it's really, really interesting. So. [00:35:22] Speaker C: Yeah, I know. My little Chev used to know when I was not well, and he would always come and sit on my lap and. And he would get on top of my tummy and on my chest, like he would like. And just lay on me because he knew when I wasn't well. And I just thought, oh, he was the most beautiful, beautiful, beautiful boy. [00:35:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:35:40] Speaker C: That's my. [00:35:41] Speaker A: So it's just amazing. [00:35:43] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:35:44] Speaker A: So you just gotta really learn that every day, every day that you're alive, your learning everything, whether it's good or bad or whatever, every day brings you a lesson. Every day brings you a sense of understanding of who you are within yourself. And you've got to really work with that. You've got to really understand. And just remember, your mind is very, very powerful. Whatever you got in your head, that's what you're going to attract in your life. [00:36:07] Speaker B: Yes. [00:36:08] Speaker A: And people forget that. You know, your subconscious is an extremely powerful thing. [00:36:14] Speaker B: Yes. [00:36:14] Speaker A: And you've got to be careful what you're thinking. You've got to be careful what you're paying attention to. You better be careful what kind of even. I know, Sounds terrible. Some movies that you're watching, music that you're listening, you know, if you're watching, you know, War movies all the time. That will awaken a lot of negativity into your life. So if you watch a war movie, I'm not going to tell you not to watch a war movie, but make sure you watch a happy movie after that. [00:36:38] Speaker C: I have to do that. I cannot. [00:36:39] Speaker A: Yes. [00:36:40] Speaker C: And I've heard of people, and I did just see a post that people that watch these true crime documentaries and then go straight to sleep. [00:36:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:36:49] Speaker C: They think you can't do that. That's crazy. That is crazy. Could you imagine the dreams? I don't even like watching them at the best of times, but if I have, if I'm going to, I have to follow it with something short and sweet. Like it has to be happy, fluffy and glittery and stuff. [00:37:03] Speaker A: It's not only the dreams itself. I've met people that. Their kids, you know, 10 to 15 years, they watch the. In NCIS and all those, you know, those mystery movies. [00:37:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:16] Speaker A: Think nothing and then they start being scared of the dark. They start being. They go around looking and they. Was one particular girl that I knew in Bunbury, she were walking past. It's night time. We went to the movies. We were walking back to our caravan park. We had to walk past this park, right. And she says, oh no, I've got to go on the other side because there's trees. There's someone behind the trees. There was nothing behind the tree. But she took it to say, you got to watch it because every time, you know, you go to a movie, you come out at night. [00:37:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:46] Speaker C: There's always. [00:37:47] Speaker A: Yeah, it's always someone. [00:37:49] Speaker C: Michael Jackson doing the thriller coming out. [00:37:52] Speaker A: So therefore. And it plants things on the head without them knowing the fears that are created. [00:37:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:37:58] Speaker A: You know, so you gotta watch those horrible things. [00:38:00] Speaker C: So that's just from watching those things. It's not like she was intuitive and just felt someone that was completely driven from them. [00:38:07] Speaker A: I've seen this many times. She says, you know the shirt on TV, look, those TVs are not real. They're just storytelling. [00:38:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:14] Speaker A: They're just for tv. [00:38:15] Speaker C: So they do plant seeds. So if you're watching bad things, it's going to plant bad seeds. [00:38:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:21] Speaker C: If you're listening to bad lyric music, it'll be planting bad things in. [00:38:27] Speaker B: Is that what. Yeah. [00:38:28] Speaker C: Negative things. [00:38:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:29] Speaker C: I mean, it does make sense. [00:38:30] Speaker A: It does, yeah. [00:38:31] Speaker C: And so. [00:38:32] Speaker A: So when you go to bed, you just put music on. Go to sleep listening to music. [00:38:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:38:36] Speaker A: You know, it doesn't have to be a meditation. If you don't want a meditation or, or it doesn't even have to be hurts or anything. But you could go to bed listening to, I don't know, Neil Sadaka. [00:38:46] Speaker B: I don't know. [00:38:47] Speaker A: Or just music. [00:38:48] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [00:38:49] Speaker C: You know, I know if I fall asleep watching a show, I will always have disruptive dreams. And then so I usually, if I'm getting sleepy, I'll. I'll put YouTube on and put binaural beats on for my sleep and to help keep me asleep because I have trouble staying asleep and I always, always wake up at 4:00'. [00:39:08] Speaker B: Clock. [00:39:09] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:39:09] Speaker C: Three or four. [00:39:10] Speaker A: And I'll be awake every night I'm awake. [00:39:12] Speaker C: It's just like, like clockwork. You just awake and it's like. Okay, it's the witching hour, right? [00:39:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:39:17] Speaker A: What do you want? What are you trying to tell me? Please. [00:39:19] Speaker C: Yeah, I know, right? [00:39:19] Speaker A: Tell me what you're going to tell me so I can go back to sleep. [00:39:21] Speaker C: I've had some really great revelations in that. Yeah, absolutely. But I, I did find. So when I started, obviously I was born with my gifts, but I didn't hear the messages. I didn't have that come through. It was just a visual thing and a feeling and they'd touch me and they'd do Siddeley Buggers. So as a child, seeing spirit and ghosts and things like that, it's challenging. [00:39:48] Speaker B: It was. [00:39:48] Speaker C: And I've had insomnia my whole life. Whole life. And I've always had trouble falling asleep and staying asleep. Even as I got older and then as other gifts started coming in. It probably did help with my sleep because then I could hear the things that I couldn't understand. And once I developed more into it, obviously it's not, I think it's just a life long cycle that I'm trying to break now. [00:40:16] Speaker A: Well, I was the same. I was 4 years old when I started doing my work and that. So you sort of grow up. But the thing is probably for you, as it was for me, you, you see spirit but you don't realize. [00:40:29] Speaker B: You. [00:40:29] Speaker C: Know, and then like, why are you looking at me? Like, why are you touching my foot? [00:40:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:33] Speaker C: You know what I mean? [00:40:35] Speaker A: Yeah. And it's like people see you talking to somebody, but they can't see it, but you can. [00:40:40] Speaker C: I was that way. [00:40:41] Speaker A: People used to say, God, they said to my dad, you know, you should really take your daughter to, to see someone because she talks to herself and she loves and, and it's like she holds hands or something with. And I do. [00:40:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:40:52] Speaker A: With other people. But there's nothing there. [00:40:54] Speaker C: No well, you know what it's like when you actually do have spirit there and you're like, yeah, you kind of do that. [00:40:58] Speaker A: And my dad said, no, she's okay. She's talking to spirits. [00:41:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:41:01] Speaker A: They go, oh, you're crazy too. [00:41:02] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:41:05] Speaker C: But I actually. Because of them, I didn't talk for two whole years, I did not talk. And they had to do death testing on me and everything. And then after, you know, they were doing the claps behind my head and I'd turn, so they knew I wasn't deaf, but I was just scared shitless, I think. You know, I saw there were so many in the first house that I grew up in, and my mum was actually pushed down the stairs by one of them and lost a baby. And I felt that, and that was when I felt it coming on. And it hasn't stopped. But, like, as a kid and you're seeing this and you're feeling that energy. [00:41:39] Speaker A: Yes. [00:41:39] Speaker C: Not good. So, yeah, I did not talk, but now I don't shut up. [00:41:43] Speaker B: So. [00:41:43] Speaker A: Yeah, well, it didn't affect you permanently. [00:41:46] Speaker C: No, no, Actually, someone was like, I was telling people how shy I was at school and I was shy. Nobody believes me. Nobody. [00:41:55] Speaker B: Right. [00:41:55] Speaker C: And I was like, yeah, I was shy at high school too. Nah, don't believe you. I'm like, I swear to God I was. And I was trying to think about when I stopped being shy. And I think it's. After you have your first child. I don't know if you ever had. [00:42:08] Speaker A: That moment that opens you up. [00:42:10] Speaker C: Well, it literally does open you up. [00:42:13] Speaker B: Sorry. [00:42:14] Speaker C: But, like, sorry, I couldn't help. [00:42:20] Speaker B: I. [00:42:20] Speaker C: Think, because you learn to lose. Sorry, you learn to lose that shame because, like, now all of a sudden, you know, these aren't private. [00:42:28] Speaker B: It's. [00:42:29] Speaker C: It's a. It's feeding machines, you know, and you just. Yeah, at first you're like, oh, I'm gonna go breastfeed. I'm gonna go into this room. After a while, it's like, yeah, pop it out and put her on. But, like, I lost. I. I started to lose it from. Yeah, from being a mum, I think. And then obviously just got louder and louder from there and. I don't know. But, yeah, lots of people don't believe that I was shy, but I did. I do believe it came from having these gifts and being scared of them. [00:42:58] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:42:59] Speaker C: And so even as adults, you meet people. I do. [00:43:02] Speaker A: That you weren't scared. You just didn't understand it. So therefore, it creates a sense of discomfort on it. [00:43:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:07] Speaker A: I'd Say, you know, the same thing happens now. You wouldn't even. [00:43:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:43:11] Speaker A: You wouldn't be scared. You go, oh, yeah, okay, I can deal with you. [00:43:13] Speaker C: I'll be like, yeah, no, bugger off, or something. But as a child, you don't know you have that option. But you also don't know, especially if I wasn't talking. But you don't know how to voice that, too. But I do, actually. Do you find that when you meet people, even at. Like you've just done. You just did a fair at Beldivis, didn't you? You did, like a psychic thing. Yeah, I've done one there, too. You do find. Do you find you meet people, are attracted to come and see you at your stall because you're there to teach them things? Like. And I found that the things I'm going through at the time, I'll tend to meet people with the same issues, and this has happened a lot. And then I'll meet people that are gifted, that don't know what to do with them. So you're there as that stepping stone. Do you find that a lot? [00:43:57] Speaker A: Yes, that happens a lot. Yeah. [00:43:59] Speaker C: And it's like, these are like me when I was little, but they're an adult and they're just in that kind of space now. Because a lot of people have these moments where they have their awakening, their spiritual awakening, they start their spiritual journey, they've gone through all the other things, and they're there and they're starting out and you meet them. So you're able to give them parts of. Of your knowledge and your experience, and yours was from a child. You were born with it. [00:44:25] Speaker B: Same. [00:44:25] Speaker C: So you are that gift and that stepping stone for them. Do you find that? [00:44:29] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, that happens a lot. Yeah, that happens a lot. But I think what I found at those places as well, that a lot of people did not. They don't understand the importance of picking the right psychic. [00:44:40] Speaker B: Yes, yes. [00:44:41] Speaker A: You know, it's really. It's really sad, you know, and when you go to an expo, don't let anybody tell you go and see that one. You've got to work it out. [00:44:49] Speaker C: You've got to feel who you get drawn to. [00:44:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:44:51] Speaker A: Who you're drawn to. There was one particular lady in that particular expo. I said, look, I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going. Because she didn't realize I was one of the psychics. Right. [00:44:59] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah. [00:45:00] Speaker A: And she grabbed me in the toilet. He said, look, I want to pick us up. I don't know which one. My girlfriend says I should see that one. And my husband says I should see that one. I said, but who do you want to see? She goes, I don't know. I said, I'll tell you what I'm going to do. I'm going to go around there. I'm going to collect all the cards. I never told her who I was. [00:45:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:16] Speaker A: I'm going to collect a card from each table and I'm going to give them three. And I want you to come back in the toilet. All right. So nobody can influence. And I want you to feel the cards. I want you to feel the cards and see which card actually feels like something that you. That. [00:45:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:33] Speaker A: And if you're not sure, just put it aside and feel the other. She was there about 20 minutes. She's feeling all this. [00:45:39] Speaker C: It is an important decision, though. [00:45:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:45:40] Speaker A: It is a. It is an important. Because if you pick the right psychic, that psych is going to answer all your questions. It's going to tell you what you need to hear. [00:45:47] Speaker C: Clarity. [00:45:48] Speaker A: And it's going to open the doors for you. [00:45:50] Speaker C: But likewise with. If you pick the wrong one. [00:45:52] Speaker A: But if you pick the wrong one, you pick. You only hear what you want to hear. [00:45:56] Speaker B: Yes. [00:45:57] Speaker C: You know, or what they want to tell you. [00:45:59] Speaker A: Exactly. [00:45:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:00] Speaker A: You know, and sometimes, you know, some are naughty and they don't have anything for you, but they make up a story anyway because they want to tell you something. [00:46:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:09] Speaker A: And that happens a lot. [00:46:11] Speaker C: So how did. Who did she pick after the 20 minutes? [00:46:13] Speaker B: Me. Yeah. [00:46:14] Speaker A: I was gonna say she went and asked the lady at the front door says, where's this one? She goes, oh, that's Selva. She's down there. [00:46:22] Speaker C: And did she spin out? [00:46:23] Speaker A: She said, oh my God, it's you. I go, is that a bad thing? She goes, I know, yeah. Meant to be, you know, and it's. We sat down, we talked and it was the only reading I did. [00:46:35] Speaker B: Yeah, right. Yeah. I didn't do it anymore. Okay. [00:46:37] Speaker A: That's it. I only did good. It's like I only went for that fair chest for her. [00:46:42] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. [00:46:43] Speaker C: I have had times of that, you. [00:46:45] Speaker A: Know, and when I go to a fe. I don't time myself. [00:46:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:47] Speaker A: I treated the same as I do at home. [00:46:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:50] Speaker A: I can't be bothered with this 30 minute reading thing. I just can't. You know, if you come for a reading. [00:46:54] Speaker C: Yeah. [00:46:55] Speaker A: Advertising. I'm doing them cheaper because everybody's charging cheaper. [00:46:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:46:59] Speaker A: But I just sit there and I. I honor you. Just as if you had a private session. I don't care how long I take with you. [00:47:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [00:47:06] Speaker A: You know. [00:47:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:06] Speaker A: And she was with me for two and a half hours, which is talking. [00:47:10] Speaker C: And I've done the same thing and stuff. [00:47:11] Speaker A: Nothing. Because that's what you need to do. That's what that person needed. [00:47:14] Speaker C: But also likewise. And have you had people come up to you? Yeah, I want a reading from you. And you're like, you know what? I don't think I'm the one for you. [00:47:23] Speaker A: Have you felt like, look, I've done that many times. I've done it on the radio. People are rang up. And I said, look, I'm sorry, I have nothing for you. Yeah, maybe tomorrow or another day I might. But right now. [00:47:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:34] Speaker A: I don't have any friends. Or either I'm not the right person for you. [00:47:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:38] Speaker A: Or you're not ready to hear what you got to be told. [00:47:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:47:42] Speaker A: Or whatever. But it's not a bad thing. [00:47:44] Speaker B: It's just. [00:47:44] Speaker A: I'm just letting you know, I don't feel it's me. See, I did that. I traveled around Queensland with a psychic expert for three months. [00:47:53] Speaker C: Oh, yeah. [00:47:54] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. [00:47:55] Speaker A: And I got to Makai. And I got to Makai. And I was doing a reading, and this lady came up and. And she won a reading. She picked me. So the lady at the front desk, her name was Connie, said, okay, this Selby, go and sit over there. Anyway, because you put your banners at the front. She has a line of banners, and everybody reads your banners. You don't have them next to you. [00:48:17] Speaker B: Okay. [00:48:18] Speaker A: That you have to. They read the banners and then they. They know. They ask, okay, where's this person? I don't have a photo in my banner. So. And she came to me and she. I said, oh, hello, how are you? Stuff like that. Said, what's your name? She told me your name. And I shook her head and I said, look, I'm sorry. I have nothing. I can't do your reading. I don't have anything for you. So go back to the front and tell Connie you want to choose another sidekick. Because I don't have anything for you. You know, so I'm better off telling you than making a story up. I'm sure you want an honest reading. [00:48:51] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:48:51] Speaker A: She goes, thank you. Thank you, Fiona. She was okay. So she went back to the desk and she told Connie, Connie Silver says she has nothing for me. So she. She said to ask me to ask you to allow me to choose another reader or get my money back. And she goes, she did. Now, Connie walked up to me. There's 32 readers in that room. [00:49:15] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:15] Speaker A: Surely she could have picked another one, right? [00:49:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:19] Speaker A: And she goes, this lady Denise tells me you couldn't do a reading for her. We're still friends, actually, me and Denise. [00:49:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:27] Speaker A: And I said, no, I don't have anything for her. She needs to pick someone else. And I'm not into telling stories. She was. Well, make it up. No, because she has chosen you. You better find something to tell her. [00:49:40] Speaker C: That's terrible. [00:49:40] Speaker A: And of course, I'm so shy. [00:49:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:43] Speaker A: And on the top of my voice I yelled, do you want me to make it up? I'm not making it up. I'm not here. I'm not a storyteller. I'm a life translator. [00:49:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:49:54] Speaker A: I'm proud of what I do. And if a reputation to upkeep. I went on from. [00:49:58] Speaker B: Yeah, good. [00:49:59] Speaker A: So I packed all my stuff and there was another Western Australia, really traveling with me at the time. [00:50:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:03] Speaker A: He says, what are you doing, Silva? I said, you can stay. I don't care. But if this is a circus, yeah. [00:50:11] Speaker C: I don't want to be part of it. [00:50:12] Speaker A: So I packed everything up in my walk my 5km back to the place where I was staying. Unbeknown to me, that lady followed me behind me. She could have offered me a lift, but she didn't. She followed me behind me. I was pretty angry degree. [00:50:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:29] Speaker A: And I said, that's it. I'm gonna go to the pub, gonna grab my darts. [00:50:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:33] Speaker A: I'm gonna throw some darts. So I went to my room and I got changed. I got out of my whites because I wear white when I'm working. [00:50:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:42] Speaker A: Got out my whites, got dressed. I said, I'm going to. And the knock at the door and you go, oh. I said, look, I'm really sorry about today, but there's no way I was going to make something up just to. Just to get a lousy 20 bucks. [00:50:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:50:59] Speaker A: It'd be insulting you. [00:51:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:01] Speaker A: And I gotta live with that. So, no. I said, so I still don't have anything for you right now because I decided I'm not going to do any readings at all. So I've shut off. And she goes, then that's okay. How about tomorrow? I said, look, I'm gonna go and play darts at the pub. That's all I want to do now. I just want to go down, throw my darts to be. [00:51:23] Speaker B: Yes. Yeah. [00:51:24] Speaker A: Just do something. [00:51:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:25] Speaker A: And I said, do you play dash? She goes, yeah, yeah. I've Thrown a couple. So she comes and when I get there, everybody's talking to her. I said, ah, you're gonna play her? I go, yeah, you know, she's a state champion. [00:51:39] Speaker C: I was just gonna say, I bet you she was. She was good. [00:51:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:51:42] Speaker A: I think I'll play a couple. [00:51:44] Speaker C: Yeah, I'll throw a couple. I bet you she's good. [00:51:47] Speaker B: Did she. [00:51:47] Speaker A: She completely, completely thrashed me. [00:51:50] Speaker C: I'd be like a woman. Do you want a reading or what? [00:51:53] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:51:54] Speaker A: And I said to her, I said, look, I will come tomorrow morning and you know, and I'll tell her I want it as early as possible though. I got. What time are you gonna come? She goes, 8:30. Eight. She came and I said, Look, 8:30 is a bit too early. I am leaving someone else. They got to go to the expo. The expo doesn't start until 9. I can't just kick him out and. Okay, let's make it 9 o'. [00:52:16] Speaker B: Clock. [00:52:16] Speaker A: So anyway, so she came at 9 o'. [00:52:17] Speaker B: Clock. [00:52:18] Speaker A: We did her reading. We spent the whole morning actually, and then she left. And then she came back that afternoon with 12 more bookings. So I was busy. We had. I had another week to go in, Makai. [00:52:30] Speaker C: And you weren't going to go back to the. [00:52:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:32] Speaker A: No way. [00:52:32] Speaker C: I know. I have done the same thing. I will walk out if it's disingenuous. [00:52:37] Speaker B: I will. Yep. [00:52:37] Speaker C: Not. Not happening. [00:52:39] Speaker A: Because, you know, you get guilty by association. [00:52:41] Speaker B: Yes. [00:52:42] Speaker C: You don't want you to go down with the sinking ship of, you know, unauthentic. [00:52:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:52:47] Speaker C: People. And, you know, you're doing something beautiful and, and it's very like, it's like a doctor thing. You're trusted. [00:52:54] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:54] Speaker C: And it's life changing. [00:52:56] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:52:57] Speaker C: Why would you want to make the ground. Yes, absolutely. You wouldn't want to compromise anything for anyone. Not for 20 bucks anyway. [00:53:04] Speaker A: You know, the thing is, like, people come to, to see you and some people are very fragile. I should probably. [00:53:10] Speaker C: Absolutely. [00:53:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:12] Speaker A: Some people are going through very horrible times. [00:53:14] Speaker B: Yes. [00:53:14] Speaker A: And they're emotional, they're depressed and stuff like that. And whatever you say to them at. [00:53:20] Speaker C: That moment, they will take it in. [00:53:23] Speaker A: Like, like water to survive. [00:53:26] Speaker B: Yes. [00:53:26] Speaker A: You know, so you've got to be very careful. You've got to be respectful of other people. You've got to be aware that you are affecting someone's life and you've got to do it with honesty and integrity. [00:53:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:53:36] Speaker A: You know, you gotta look after that. [00:53:38] Speaker C: Being integris is, is, is very important in this kind of industry. And this kind of work it is. I have had that anxiety, like starting doing this, you know, as a, as a job. I did have that anxiety. What if someone comes to me for a reading and I just have nothing for them? And I haven't had that happen yet. But I have had moments where I'm like, I need to change your booking to another time because it just wasn't right. I've done that and I've had to. And like, you feel terrible, but you just know it's not the right day. It's not, you know, I don't, you know, I can't see this person today. And whether it's a you reason or a them reason or a universe reason, you just know that's the right thing to do. And I think it was more about accepting that and honoring that and then being able to voice that in the right, respectable way, integrous way. [00:54:33] Speaker A: Before I do a reading, every time, before, every time, I always, I do a little prayer for myself and ask for protection and guidance. But I also ask, please do not let me hurt this person. Allow me to tell the truth to this person, to deliver it respectfully for them to be able to understand everything around them and, and understand where I'm coming from and not hurt them. Because that's my biggest fear. What if I do hurt someone? [00:54:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:54:59] Speaker A: And that is the only fear I really have. If. What if I hurt someone by me telling them something? [00:55:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:04] Speaker A: And so I always tell spirit, be very gentle and loving the way you deliver the message if it is bad news. [00:55:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:10] Speaker A: So they'll have an understanding and I don't hurt them. They will. They will understand and comprehend what's going on. I remember years and years ago, my friend, my very good friend Mari wanted a reading and. And I said, I don't really want to give you a reading, Mari. And she goes, why, have you got something back to tell you? I said, I don't know, I just don't want to do it. [00:55:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:31] Speaker A: She goes, so please. Anyway, so I ended up doing it. [00:55:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:55:35] Speaker A: And as it happens, we. The reading went for quite some time. But a part of reading, I. I was gonna come to Perth with her husband Gary. One morning, we were living at 5 in the morning. I said to her, gary's gonna go to Perth at five in the morning one night to, to see his last lawyer's visit or whatever it was. But you, there's a friend that's going to go with him in at the last minute. That friend will change your mind. Right. And will not go. [00:56:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:04] Speaker A: You know, and I didn't know it was me. Right. [00:56:06] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [00:56:07] Speaker A: And then, because he will not be coming back, you'll have to say goodbye to him and he'll be going into another space, he'll be going to another direction, you know, it'll be. Won't be you and Gary anymore, you know. And she just laughed it off, I remember. Yeah, he'd probably find a girlfriend and whatever. She just laughed it off. And. And I said, but you will be notified of whatever the decision is, whatever he decides to do. [00:56:32] Speaker B: Yeah, right, right. Yeah. [00:56:34] Speaker A: So he went off, you know, he got there and I was going to go to Perth with him, but I didn't click either myself. [00:56:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:43] Speaker C: Quite interesting that. That was actually. That bit of information was kept from you even. [00:56:47] Speaker A: Yeah. [00:56:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:48] Speaker A: And I said to my husband, I'm not going to go to all sorts of. Going to come see my mom, spend the day with her and then I get a lift back with him, you know. [00:56:55] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:56:56] Speaker A: And I said to my husband, I said, no, I don't feel like going today. I'm just going to stay here. I'm going to ring mom, tell her that I. I'll come down on the train on the weekend and come for a week. [00:57:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:07] Speaker A: So I crossed the road, I said, g. Sorry, you're going to have to do it alone, mate. Yeah, I'm not doing it. [00:57:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:14] Speaker A: And Mari looked at me, I go, what's wrong? I tell you in a minute. Oh, she left it at that. She said, but come back. Come back for a coffee. [00:57:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:28] Speaker A: I said, okay, I'll go home and tell Brad that I'm gonna breathe, that I'm gonna have a coffee with you. So I went home and my kids were little then. And I came back and Gary left and he said, oh. And I said to her, he will not say, see you later, baby. You'll say goodbye, my love. [00:57:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:48] Speaker A: And he gave her a hug and he said, goodbye, my love. And he left. [00:57:53] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:57:55] Speaker A: And that's when she looked at me and I got. Ah, it's that a coffee. She says, what? Gary's gonna die today. Okay. I make you think I got you. I still wasn't getting it. [00:58:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:09] Speaker A: I said, what are you talking about? You're reading, dumbass. [00:58:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:12] Speaker A: I go, what? Yeah, let me listen to it. Yeah, I'll go and get it. I used to have it on tapes then. [00:58:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:19] Speaker A: So she put the tape on and I said, oh, my God, did I say that? [00:58:23] Speaker C: Yeah, See, because I. I have those same moments too, because it's your higher self. And you know, you just. [00:58:28] Speaker A: That's right. [00:58:28] Speaker C: Channeling. [00:58:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:58:29] Speaker A: And I said, oh, wow. I said, we'll just. We'll just wait for the cops to come knock at the door. [00:58:35] Speaker B: Yeah. Oh. [00:58:36] Speaker A: She goes, how are you? She goes, you know, it's kind of weird. It's like I'm completely at peace. I feel numb. She says, I feel numb. I'm not happy. I'm not sad. I'm just. It's like I'm just. [00:58:54] Speaker C: Could have been shock though. [00:58:55] Speaker B: I mean. [00:58:56] Speaker A: So we had a coffee and stuff like that and the coppers came over and. And they said, look, you know, he has me that next head. [00:59:04] Speaker C: Couldn't you just stop him from going? Obviously not. I mean, obviously people do think that, but yeah, obviously it was fate. [00:59:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [00:59:12] Speaker A: And that. That's what happened. So my husband went with her to identify the body and what actually happened to it? He had a head on collusion with a car and a truck. In the milk truck. Yeah, yeah, the Peter's milk truck. [00:59:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. [00:59:26] Speaker A: It was in a blind spot in Yaloop. [00:59:29] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [00:59:31] Speaker A: So. Yeah, yeah. So every time we drive past still now go. He was guessing. The same happened to my brother in law, you know, I. He was coming down to Perth. He left in Port Hedland. He was coming down to Perth to sign some documents and that. And I said, vladimir, please don't fly. Don't fly. Just. Just drive down. Yeah, drive down. Don't, don't. I know you got to come down and do these contracts because back then they didn't have. Have, you know, faxes or things, right? [01:00:02] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:00:03] Speaker A: And he said, no, no, no, I'll go on the plane service much faster, you know. [01:00:07] Speaker B: Okay. [01:00:08] Speaker A: I says, bloody me, please. You get on that plane, you're gonna be okay. You're gonna sign everything, but you get on the plane home and you're gonna die. And he goes, oh, no, don't give me your hocus pocus. [01:00:21] Speaker B: Don't worry about it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:00:23] Speaker A: So I told my sister, I said, they were separated actually, at the time. [01:00:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:00:29] Speaker A: And I said, bloody Mary's not going home today. She goes, oh, yeah, whatever. She just. [01:00:39] Speaker B: Yeah, you know. Yeah. [01:00:41] Speaker A: And then of course, next thing we heard that he had a heart attack on the plane on the way back. [01:00:45] Speaker B: Oh, really? Yeah, yeah. [01:00:47] Speaker C: And I mean, that would have happened on any form of travel. [01:00:50] Speaker A: It wouldn't have happened any form of trap. But I kept on seeing it on the plane because obviously he was going. [01:00:55] Speaker B: To, you know, yeah, yeah, yeah, Right. [01:00:58] Speaker A: That is interesting. [01:00:59] Speaker B: It is. [01:01:00] Speaker C: And like, I. I mean, I remember when I first started doing readings when obviously, I realized, okay, this is to help people. So, you know, when you first start doing them, you've got to learn the etiquette of. Of wording things correctly. And you've also got to realize, you know. You know, you're dealing with someone's, you know, someone's brother. I remember this lady, I knew her brother had cancer, and I knew he was on. You know, he was. It was. It was stage four. And I got this. [01:01:31] Speaker B: And. [01:01:31] Speaker C: And then she's like, oh, how long do we have with him? And I'm like, just enjoy your time you have left. Because what I found is, as much as they're asking you the question, how long do I have left with my brother, you're going. If you tell them specifically, they're likely to freak out. [01:01:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:01:49] Speaker C: Some people, they want to know how long they got left. But if you're going to say three months, they're going to freak the f out. They will. And I've had. I've had to reword, like, really think about it. And I'm like, you know, just enjoy the time when it's something little like that. And then they're like, no, no, I really want to know. I really need to prepare. And it's like, you know what? [01:02:10] Speaker A: I'm. [01:02:10] Speaker C: You know, I really only get this amount of time. And I was right. But it was quite distressing. And I've never been that specific with those answers again unless I knew they were able to receive that information, that they did really want it. She pressed for it, and I really didn't want to tell her. And when she reacted the way she did, I realized that I need to go with what my instincts were to not tell her. But some people, you know, they're going to receive the information differently, and they really do want to know. This lady did not want to know. [01:02:41] Speaker A: See, I make a. I trust spirit, and I believe the spirit will never tell anybody anything they cannot handle. [01:02:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:02:47] Speaker C: And I knew not to, but she pressed me. [01:02:50] Speaker A: Yeah, I don't worry because I used to worry about them, what I had to say. So that's when I was. I think I was about 32, 33, and I decided, I'm not. I don't want to hear it anymore. [01:03:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:03] Speaker A: I just want to hear it when I say it. [01:03:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. [01:03:06] Speaker A: So I've got no idea it was going to come out of my mouth. [01:03:08] Speaker B: Yes. [01:03:09] Speaker C: Yeah, I know. I'm the same it's crazy. It's. It's so cool. [01:03:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:14] Speaker C: Because it's like you don't get that filtration system to come out your mouth through your brain, and then you think about it, and then it comes out. It just comes straight through. [01:03:22] Speaker A: Because what happens. [01:03:23] Speaker C: I'm just as surprised at whatever's coming out of my mouth as you are. [01:03:26] Speaker A: Because what happens, Jen? And you did it. And I know I did it. It's like when we hear it first, then your human side steps in and. God, I can't tell that person. [01:03:35] Speaker B: Yes. [01:03:36] Speaker A: I can't share that with. But they wouldn't tell you that unless they needed to hear it. [01:03:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:40] Speaker A: So you're really interfering with what they need to hear. [01:03:43] Speaker C: I guess so. [01:03:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:03:44] Speaker A: So I asked spirit, I said, do not tell me before I tell them. Just drive through. I do not wish to hear it. I just want to hear it when they hear it. [01:03:54] Speaker C: See, that's good to know, because this is when I was first starting out, and obviously I just said, just enjoy the time you have left. And she's like, I really need to know how long so I can prepare. And I heard the three months. And every part of me said, you don't want to hear this. And I did say that. And she pressed, and I should have just stuck to my guns, but I was only new at this. This was like seven years ago. And, yeah, she was quite upset after. But, I mean, you know, she did message me later and said, I'm sorry. Reacting like that, I wasn't prepared for that short amount of time. But, yeah, I wish I had have listened to myself. But, yeah, asking them not to tell you the information if that person can't receive it. But also I. I learned to trust my own instincts and intuition, and I should have stuck to that, but I was only new at it. [01:04:41] Speaker B: And. [01:04:41] Speaker A: Yeah. And I mean, when my husband was dying, my first husband, I wanted to know when he was gonna die. I wanted to know. So I went. I went and saw someone, and I asked this person, and I says, please tell me when Red's gonna die so we can get things organized. Yeah, there's certain things we need to get in place. [01:05:00] Speaker B: Yes. [01:05:00] Speaker A: And he said, okay, no worries. He never questioned. He said, yeah, 17th of September. So in the afternoon. [01:05:06] Speaker C: That's so specific. [01:05:07] Speaker A: That's very specific. Yeah, he was very specific. He said, it'll be a Wednesday. It'll be in the afternoon. And then we looked it up in the calendar. Yes, it is a Wednesday. [01:05:16] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. [01:05:16] Speaker A: And. And he did. And he died on 17 September at 20 to 2 in the afternoon. [01:05:21] Speaker B: Wow. [01:05:22] Speaker A: You know, and it was. It was. It was perfect. It was perfect. We had everything and we fulfilled everything we were able to fulfill on his bucket list. [01:05:32] Speaker C: That's good. [01:05:33] Speaker A: On that time I said it. We. Okay. Oh, we got four weeks. Let's just do it. [01:05:38] Speaker C: Yeah, I'm touching me right now. [01:05:41] Speaker A: We did it. [01:05:41] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:05:43] Speaker C: I think that's beautiful, though. [01:05:44] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:05:46] Speaker A: So it is. It's very, very beautiful. [01:05:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:05:48] Speaker C: And I think, you know, in that regard, obviously you need that information so you can do that and you already come to terms with that. I. [01:05:58] Speaker B: Hang on. [01:05:59] Speaker C: I'm just getting really distracted right now. Sorry. Someone's touching me. [01:06:02] Speaker A: You want to say something? [01:06:03] Speaker C: Oh, gosh, yeah, I know, right. [01:06:06] Speaker A: Let them talk. [01:06:07] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:06:09] Speaker C: Just lost my train of thought. If you want to just. [01:06:13] Speaker A: Yeah, so there is. There is a lot of changes happening in everybody's life and we've got to take that time, enjoy every day as it presents itself and become aware how you feel. Feel and how you are affected directly, you know, and don't put too much energy on how other people are feeling because you need to live with you, you need to be with you. So you need to react exactly to how you feel, which is very, very important. [01:06:36] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm back. [01:06:38] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:06:39] Speaker C: That was the message for me, actually. [01:06:41] Speaker A: Good. [01:06:41] Speaker C: Yeah, I won't say that on it. We'll tell you in a minute. Oh, I'm going to cut to a song. Let's do some Jelly Roll. I think some Save Me by Jelly Roll. [01:06:49] Speaker A: Great. Now gonna get a glass of water. Oh, yes, your voice, your community station. You are listening to IPL radio. [01:07:01] Speaker B: And. [01:07:01] Speaker C: You'Re back in the studio with all the Things with Jen, Jen and Silver. Let's see if I got the right microphone. Did I? [01:07:06] Speaker A: Yes, I think you do. [01:07:07] Speaker C: I did, I did, I did. Awesome. [01:07:10] Speaker A: Very good. [01:07:11] Speaker C: Yes, I know. [01:07:12] Speaker A: Bringing all of us. [01:07:13] Speaker C: I know, I know we can. Yeah, well, because, you know, I mean, quite often we have all the headsets filled, but because they get a little bit tangled, I'm just like, I'm just going to put all the mics on. But yeah, now we can just mix. [01:07:25] Speaker A: It a lot easier. [01:07:26] Speaker C: Yes, yes. We were just having a chat when the song was playing and because I've been quite unwell for quite a few weeks now and I was talking about how even emotional things and things in your life can make you sick physically. And I've been going through some things. I've been bullied and, you know, just helping the wrong people and not really wanting to confront things. So I've, you know, kept quiet for quite a while. And it's odd that. I mean, it's not odd, but it's quite interesting that then I lose my voice and then I get this illness and then I'm coughing and then now I sound, you know, I mean, I have to keep coughing, but I was having, like. I haven't been able to see clients and do readings and healings and that. Because I don't want to be coughing on them. [01:08:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:08:20] Speaker C: And I was drinking, I was having cough medicine, and now I've been on antibiotics and I had to stop the cough medicine because as. As much as it was stopping me coughing for the moment, it actually suppressed it all. So now I'm just letting it happen and, you know, getting my healing. But we're talking about the next level of healing. So beyond the medicine and beyond, you know, being healthy and putting all the good things back in your body, sometimes you need that extra help. [01:08:46] Speaker A: You do, you do. I mean, we. We all need to. To heal our spiritual side of it. Every type of illness, of whatever condition you have, has a metaphysical meaning to it as well. [01:08:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:08:56] Speaker A: Like, for example, you got bad knees. Your knees start plying up. [01:09:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:00] Speaker A: And it's telling you you've got a fear of moving forward. You could hear a. Confronting changes, you know, fighting changes. Your feet start playing up, you know, and so you're actually treading in. In dangerous ground. And it's not to your advantage. So be careful where you put your foot on. You know, watch where you step. Watch your step. If you. If your shoulders are playing up, it's like you're carrying weight. Other people's problem. And you cannot carry other people's problem. You know, if your chest is playing up, it's like you're locking up all your emotions. You haven't dealt with the weight that you've got. Feel you've been dishonest to yourself and that's been mine. That. That's what happens. You know, we put other people in front of ourselves and we neglect ourselves completely. [01:09:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:42] Speaker A: So we got to work with that. Like, I go to the pool every morning, the recreation center in amadale every morning, 6:30 in the morning. If you feel like walking, you can come join me. [01:09:53] Speaker C: Oh, awesome. [01:09:54] Speaker A: We walk in the water every morning. [01:09:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:09:56] Speaker A: And we have a routine, me and another girl. [01:09:58] Speaker B: Not. [01:09:58] Speaker A: And I use it as a healing place. Place to. To send healing. [01:10:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:02] Speaker A: To people. I actually go There with a. With a list of names in my head. Yeah. [01:10:07] Speaker B: Okay. [01:10:07] Speaker A: And I found that. And I walk and actually start walking. And because I'm there by myself for a little while before my friend comes in sometimes. And while I'm there, I always do a couple of prayers and I just walk and I just talk to spirit as I'm walking this path. Allowed to wash away all impurities, all things through other people and whatever happens. And then we go to the steam room. Not the sauna, the steam room. [01:10:32] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:33] Speaker A: And we actually concentrate. We there with our eyes closed. And if it's nice and quiet, everybody knows that we meditate in there. We talk. Look, we're meditating, so don't talk to us. We're going to meditate. [01:10:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:10:44] Speaker A: So everybody stays quiet. [01:10:46] Speaker C: I know the drill. [01:10:47] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:10:48] Speaker A: So I just stay there and meditate. And actually you sit there with your eyes closed and you, you meditate and you look up with your eyes closed. You're looking through your third eye and look up and you actually ask for it to show you, you know, what is coming your way. And then you actually send healing and you start saying people's name in that. And myself, I can actually see people's faces once I said them in, when they're receiving the healing, I can see their faces floating around. [01:11:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:11:15] Speaker A: So we actually send healing through there and just send it the. In, send it and send it. Now the beauty of doing it in the steam room is that as you're doing it, it's washing you. I asked for the steam to wash me and cleanse me as I'm doing it. So I don't retain everything. [01:11:28] Speaker B: Yes. [01:11:29] Speaker A: I'm protected of myself. And it's all really, really good, you know, and it's quite a. Quite amazing into. Into the space. But there was one particular person that we were working on, her ovary. She had ovary cancer. [01:11:41] Speaker B: Oh, yeah. [01:11:42] Speaker A: And the doctor told her that she had a stage four and she needed an operation. She needed this, she needed that. You know, and then, then the data, anything will work. So we worked on this particular person for a while and. And we could see it. You know, when you have cancer, especially. I mean, I had cancer three times. [01:12:04] Speaker B: Okay. [01:12:04] Speaker A: You know, and what happens, it's. They have. You have the mother cancer. You have the mother cancer. [01:12:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:11] Speaker A: And then you have the baby cancers. [01:12:13] Speaker B: Right? [01:12:14] Speaker A: Yeah. So what we do, we concentrate on the mother cancer, which is the main area where the doctor tell you where you got the stage four or whatever it may be. Right. [01:12:22] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:12:22] Speaker A: So we concentrate on the mother can say. We actually concentrate on the mother cancer. Asking the mother cancer to call all her babies back. [01:12:30] Speaker B: Right. [01:12:30] Speaker A: Because that came from. They all came from her anyway. [01:12:32] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:12:34] Speaker A: To call them all back. You know, it's really cold back. Call it back, call it back. Anyway. And this particular person, we did that with her and she was feeling really good and just. I can't believe how good I'm feeling. I really just can't believe it. Anyway, when she had the operation, the doctor said, look, I'm really sorry it wasn't as big as what it looked like on the ultrasound. And it had like so many little technicals on it, tentacles on it, like little legs, you know, it was incredible. But it was salt contained in. And I believe that we've got them all. We've done a scan of your body. We could not find cancer anywhere else, which is strange because we found a little bit of cancer in a couple of other areas, as you know. [01:13:18] Speaker C: So they're not metastasized. [01:13:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:20] Speaker A: But now it's like we could not find anything. We only found the mother cancer. So we operated. We believe we've got it all. You will not need chemo or anything. I think we've got it all. [01:13:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:34] Speaker A: You know, and she went for another test six weeks later, still nothing. And then she went for another test four months later, still nothing. So she got the complete clear ahead. [01:13:44] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:45] Speaker A: But she worked it out because of where she was. In her case, it was about she. She wasn't raped as such. [01:13:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:54] Speaker A: Right. Because it was her husband. And you're supposed to have sex with your husband. [01:13:59] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:13:59] Speaker A: But she never wanted to have sex. But she still had to have sex because. [01:14:03] Speaker B: Yeah, my wife obligated. [01:14:05] Speaker A: It was an obligation, but that's what it was. It's like she really. Every time they made love, she had this horrible pain and this challenging that she had to deal with. [01:14:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:14] Speaker A: You know, and that's what it's all about. And then we healed that from her and we actually dealt with it and we got her to. You don't have to relieve the pain. [01:14:24] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. Yeah. [01:14:25] Speaker A: You don't even have to remember what caused that pain. [01:14:28] Speaker B: Right. Yeah. [01:14:29] Speaker A: You just gotta order it to go out, say, look, I don't want this in myself. I've gotta let it go. You need to go. You're no longer part of my journey. I have learned, I have acknowledged, I'm taking changes regarding that type of situation. [01:14:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:46] Speaker A: I'm moving forward. And you need to order it out virtually. [01:14:49] Speaker B: Right. [01:14:49] Speaker A: So Every. Any illness that we have is an imposter. It's a guest that you don't want inside. [01:14:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:14:54] Speaker A: You got to kick them out, you know? [01:14:57] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:14:58] Speaker A: And that's what you could do. [01:15:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:00] Speaker A: As long as you understand which part of the body affects what part of your life. [01:15:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:05] Speaker A: You know, you can concentrate on that. Okay, I'm going to change that. All right. Let's just say that people are using you all the time. Well, you've got to consciously be aware to learn how to say no and yes. [01:15:18] Speaker B: Yes. [01:15:18] Speaker A: Only say yes when it's yes on the inside and say no when it's no on the inside. [01:15:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:24] Speaker C: But no is sometimes the hardest word. [01:15:27] Speaker A: To say, but it's the most beautiful. [01:15:29] Speaker C: It is, it is. [01:15:30] Speaker A: You know, so it's like a case. You've got to. You've got to learn that. You've got to connect to that, you know, and positive affirmations, just write positive affirmation all over the house, you know, to say, I am the most in person. Person in my life. I love me. I'm completely at peace with myself. I'm willing to invest in myself. From now on, just write positive affirmations. Or everywhere. Even the toilet is the best place because you always read what's on the toilet. [01:15:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:15:59] Speaker A: You know, so you can. You don't. [01:16:00] Speaker C: Even if you're not doing scrolling on. [01:16:01] Speaker A: Your phone, you read it all the time and just read it, and then you're reading constantly. So without you. Every time you read a positive affirmation, you're healing yourself. [01:16:09] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:16:10] Speaker A: You know, so it's not a case of just going to a healing. And it's beautiful because you can go to a healer and that can assist you and that can open things up. Like, we're talking this crystal beds. [01:16:19] Speaker B: Yes. [01:16:20] Speaker A: Reiki. There's. There's pranic. There's a guided healing. There's just so many. So many different realities. [01:16:27] Speaker B: Yeah. Breath work. [01:16:28] Speaker C: Amazing. [01:16:29] Speaker B: Yeah. And. [01:16:30] Speaker A: And yeah, you need to try them all out yet. But also you got to do some of the work yourself. So going to a healing, healer is never enough. [01:16:37] Speaker B: No. [01:16:37] Speaker A: Okay. [01:16:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:40] Speaker A: Going to a healer is never enough. [01:16:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:42] Speaker A: You got to really also work on yourself, too. [01:16:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:46] Speaker A: You know, and if you. [01:16:47] Speaker C: Otherwise it'll come back. [01:16:48] Speaker A: If you got. If you're lucky enough to. To find a good, good healer, they know how to help you. They will help you write affirmations, not personal affirmation. [01:16:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:16:56] Speaker A: Now you can use mundane affirmations that you find in the net and that. But the most powerfuls are the ones that you work out yourself. [01:17:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:04] Speaker A: And you use your wording, the way you speak yourself. [01:17:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:08] Speaker A: You know, and that way you connect to it because then you resonate with your personal connection. [01:17:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:17:14] Speaker A: So, yeah, that's very important. [01:17:16] Speaker C: Yeah, yeah, no, that is. And we were talking about the crystal bed too, because I have recently seen it online and I. [01:17:24] Speaker B: You. [01:17:24] Speaker C: You just suggested it to me because this is, you know, and it was in my head already today because I'd seen it on an ad, actually. They look amazing. Have you spent time in one of them? [01:17:34] Speaker A: Many times. Many times. I mean, they're very popular in South America. They originally started in South America. And the first crystal bed ever made was at the Casa Don Ignacio in Brazil, which is a huge healing, a psychic healing center that's been going for more than 50 years. It's an amazing place. I used to take people across there, and I still do. When people approach me in this group, I take them, you know, show them around it to them, because I'm one of their registered guides to take people there. [01:18:01] Speaker B: Okay. [01:18:03] Speaker A: And crystal beds is something that we've always. We've always used. [01:18:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:08] Speaker C: So these, like the med. Because they've got med beds now that they're going to be available. Have you heard of those? [01:18:13] Speaker A: No. [01:18:14] Speaker B: Okay. [01:18:14] Speaker C: I think that's like something. I think it's, like, talked about in, you know, part of the conspiracy things and things like that. I think there's some. Some knowledge and awareness that there is med beds out there that can help heal people. [01:18:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:29] Speaker C: And I think they were using it for all the child. All the children that were being trafficked. And I've heard that they're in use now, so it'd be interesting to learn the technology behind them. [01:18:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:42] Speaker C: But, yeah, definitely want to try out this crystal bed thing. Sounds amazing. [01:18:46] Speaker A: I do like the Christmas now, the crystal bed. There's a lot of crystal beds in wa. Myself, I will only let people come in my crystal bed if they're dressed in white. Completely. [01:18:57] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:18:57] Speaker A: If they're not dressed completely white, I'll say, no, I'm sorry. Go and use another bed. You're not using mine. [01:19:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:03] Speaker A: Because if you're going to use something, you've got to really understand the true tradition of it. [01:19:07] Speaker C: And so what is the importance about the white? Is that the purity. [01:19:11] Speaker A: It's the purity of it. And it's like darkness shows really easily. If anything comes out, you can see it because it's white. [01:19:18] Speaker B: Right. [01:19:18] Speaker A: You can see it. It'll stand out. [01:19:20] Speaker C: So it will come out onto the fabric. [01:19:21] Speaker A: It will come out onto the fabric. [01:19:23] Speaker C: Oh, really? [01:19:23] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:19:24] Speaker B: Okay. All right. [01:19:25] Speaker C: I'm gonna try this. [01:19:26] Speaker A: And you can, you know, and it's just the purity. And then the light goes right through a lot easier. The flows. The light finds it hard to penetrate through darker colors anyway. [01:19:35] Speaker B: Right. [01:19:35] Speaker A: And it penetrates deeper. [01:19:37] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:38] Speaker A: What color? I did an exercise on someone one day. [01:19:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:41] Speaker A: That he was wearing full black, and he got on the bed, and then he came back the next day wearing all white and got on the bed, and he said, I can't believe the difference. The difference? [01:19:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:19:55] Speaker A: When I was dressed in black, it just felt. I was just on a. And I bet with lights, nothing was happening. It was for, like, literally, I didn't really feel that much in there. But today he said, he's just amazing. [01:20:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:10] Speaker A: It was just like different story altogether. [01:20:13] Speaker C: So I guess in that, I mean, that's like something that is passed on, like, through, you know, time and the knowledge from your culture or whatever. But I think with, like, I know that some readers and things, they will wear different colors that mean things to them. Some people feel more protected with black on because it is a protection color. But other people can sometimes feel that black holds negative energy. So they don't really want people wearing black when they're doing readings and healings and things. [01:20:46] Speaker A: It's not that. It's. I. I don't care what you'd wear when you come for a healing, for a reading with me, because I'm doing the reading. As long as I'm wearing the right color, that's matter. [01:20:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:20:55] Speaker A: So on readings, is it a personal thing? I'm not concerned on the. On the reading side of it. I'm not concerned what you wear. You come naked for all I care. You know, I just. I don't worry about with the person, because I just. I just concentrate in your. In your energy, your depth, what you will allow me to see. [01:21:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:21:12] Speaker A: And I just work on that. [01:21:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:21:15] Speaker A: But healings. I am very stern about it. And I will not do any type of healing without wearing white. [01:21:21] Speaker B: Right. [01:21:22] Speaker A: You know, I don't get what story. And it's not that black carries negative energy. Such a. Yes, it can do. [01:21:28] Speaker B: It can do. [01:21:28] Speaker A: But it's not. Because that is. Because when you wear what I can see, and, you know, you put a. You put a dot on the white spot and you can see it straight away. [01:21:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:21:41] Speaker A: But if you have a black page and you put a black dot in it. [01:21:44] Speaker B: Yeah. You won't see you're not going to see it. Yeah. Yeah. [01:21:46] Speaker A: Okay. And that's. That's why. It's because you're able to see and feel what does not belong there. [01:21:52] Speaker B: Right. [01:21:54] Speaker C: Help you guide it. [01:21:56] Speaker A: It helps you, and it's easier to work with. [01:21:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:21:59] Speaker A: You know, and when I can actually and ask people, you know, what. What color do you see? What are you seeing with it? They're always with their eyes closed. And then they can tell me, then I know. And then I look at their body and I know where they're telling me the truth. They're not telling me the truth, you know? [01:22:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:22:14] Speaker A: And then that's the thing that I connect to. I mean, it's very important for me. It's very important to try and have people the best way that I can penetrate deep. [01:22:24] Speaker B: Right. [01:22:24] Speaker A: I'm gonna do it. [01:22:25] Speaker B: Yeah. Okay. [01:22:26] Speaker C: That makes a lot of sense. A lot of. Yeah. So what. When was the last time you had a healing done yourself? [01:22:32] Speaker A: I had a healing not that long ago, actually. Two weeks ago, I think. [01:22:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:22:36] Speaker C: What did you have done? [01:22:37] Speaker A: I had rakin reflexology. [01:22:40] Speaker C: Oh, I love wraithfullexology. [01:22:41] Speaker A: I love it. And my girlfriend, who's got the crystal bed. [01:22:45] Speaker B: Yep. [01:22:45] Speaker A: She does reflexology. And I said, I just rang her up, I said, look, I think I need a reflexology. And she does Reiki with her reflexology. [01:22:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:22:53] Speaker A: And it's just amazing. [01:22:55] Speaker C: Sounds like I need to meet this one, too. [01:22:57] Speaker A: I really love seeing her, and I try and see her fortnightly and before that was when I was in Bali 12 months ago, I went and saw my holy men up there. [01:23:09] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:23:10] Speaker C: And I said, what kind of healing do you get there? [01:23:13] Speaker A: I had a water healing, and I had a psychic healing, and I had meditation healing, and I had quite a few. [01:23:21] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. [01:23:22] Speaker C: And so being, you know, you're a healer and a. And a psychic, is there. With the psychic healing, is there something that it should be practiced, a regular practice for someone that. [01:23:34] Speaker B: That. [01:23:34] Speaker C: That is a healer and a reader? Like, what is. What's, you know, like, can you get residual things that stick with you or. Or what is that for? I'm not really. [01:23:46] Speaker A: No. Yeah. I mean, you. Everybody picks up stuff because it's a human side of us. [01:23:50] Speaker C: Yes, absolutely. [01:23:50] Speaker A: You know, we're not psychics 24 7. [01:23:52] Speaker C: No. [01:23:53] Speaker A: You know, myself, I'm only psychic when I'm working. [01:23:55] Speaker B: Right. [01:23:56] Speaker A: You know, I don't walk down the street reading, everybody doing anything. I'm just shut off. [01:24:00] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:24:00] Speaker A: You know, I. I decided to do that a long time Ago, I learned very fast. [01:24:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:24:05] Speaker A: That I need to shut off. I need to have a normal other. Nobody will talk to you anyway. [01:24:09] Speaker C: No, I know. [01:24:11] Speaker A: So. Anyway, so I did. A long time ago, I made a promise and I asked spirit to make sure it helps me never to read anybody without a permission. But to us, in the spirit, that taught me. [01:24:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:24:24] Speaker A: It always said, you do not read someone without the permission. That's sort of like psychic rape. You have no business entering anybody's head, anybody's face without their blessing. [01:24:34] Speaker B: Right? Yeah. [01:24:35] Speaker A: So I can talk to you all day, but unless you actually say to me, hey, I give you permission, I'll give you permission. I will not read you. Yeah, I won't. Because that's just the invasion of privacy. [01:24:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:24:50] Speaker A: But we are human and we do collect stuff. I mean, we all. We all have families, we all have issues. We all have of difficulties in our lives. I mean, my last. My last eight months have not been comfortable. [01:25:02] Speaker B: No. [01:25:02] Speaker A: And I had to overcome things. So I do need healing for me. [01:25:05] Speaker C: I suppose there's a lot of layers to healing, isn't it? [01:25:08] Speaker A: Exactly. [01:25:09] Speaker C: So you're dealing with different things and different layers. [01:25:12] Speaker A: That's right. [01:25:12] Speaker B: And we do that. [01:25:13] Speaker C: Heal it back. [01:25:15] Speaker B: One second. [01:25:17] Speaker C: There you go, talking about healing. Here comes a cough. Okay, so I want to talk to you. This just reminded me of something a couple of years ago when. So obviously when I started exploring and developing on my psychic mediumship side, I actually opened up the ability to. When I met. Started meeting people. And this is really weird. And I. I started like, I'd meet people. Hi, how you doing? And instantly I would see how and when they died. [01:25:50] Speaker A: That happens a lot. [01:25:51] Speaker C: And it was so disturbing to me that I had to learn and did everything I could to block that out because it would leave me really shook. Like, everybody. Everyone I met, and I would see it, I'd feel it, and I would live it. And I'm like, I can't do this. And I'm like, why would that happen to me? What benefit does that have to me? But, yeah, it was full on. And as you're saying that that just kind of popped in my head. But that was something I had to learn how to block out. [01:26:19] Speaker A: To learn how to block it out. I've got another good friend of mine, and she just. She was not so much now, but she was just reading everybody. And it's like, such that. Don't do that. [01:26:31] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:26:32] Speaker A: You know, don't read anybody. I said, but I'm not reading it. Yes, you are. [01:26:37] Speaker C: You're open 247 me that person. [01:26:43] Speaker B: In. [01:26:43] Speaker A: That means you're reading that person. You should not do that. You've got to learn to close it. You've got to learn to shut it down and respect that person's space. [01:26:53] Speaker B: Yep. Yep. [01:26:54] Speaker C: You don't want to be a 711 or whatever. [01:26:57] Speaker A: And the other thing, you know, is, like, it's very important never to discuss whatever reading you have with somebody. Like, if I have a reading with you, I'm not going to go out there and have coffee. I was talking to Jenny, you know, and Jenny this and Jenny. [01:27:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:11] Speaker A: That's privacy. [01:27:13] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:13] Speaker A: So important. And he didn't understand the value of that either. She said, but you're my colleague. You're training me. I said, no. You still don't tell me. [01:27:21] Speaker B: No. [01:27:21] Speaker A: You don't even tell your husband. [01:27:23] Speaker B: Yes. [01:27:23] Speaker A: That's between you and your client. That's it. Nobody else. [01:27:26] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:27] Speaker C: I mean, I've had your clients tell the world. [01:27:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:30] Speaker C: Because it's their information shared. That's right. [01:27:33] Speaker A: You cannot discuss that with anybody. [01:27:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:27:36] Speaker A: Unless your client says, can you get some clarification from Silver or can you get some clarification for Jenny or something, then that's okay. But if your client doesn't give you permission to get clarification or to discuss it with somebody, you're not to say a word. [01:27:52] Speaker C: Yeah, no, I have had people refer people to me, and then, you know, you do a reading on. On their friend, and then later on your friend will go, oh, so what did. What did you pick up? And I'm like, I'm not telling you. It's not your business unless they tell you. That's their business. But not my business. Patient confidentiality or whatever. It's the same with readers. [01:28:13] Speaker A: Exactly. [01:28:14] Speaker B: Exactly. [01:28:15] Speaker C: Anyone that does share information, you don't want to go see them because they're going to share yours. [01:28:19] Speaker A: Look, I had a. I had a healing center in College for 42 years, and I had one particular reader that came to do readings in. In college. She lives in Mandra, actually. And she came there and I said to her, look, you're very good at what you do, but I have heard that you do discuss people's readings. So I'm telling you now, if you discuss the reading with anybody when you leave the room, I will kick you out. [01:28:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:28:53] Speaker A: I don't care who you are. [01:28:54] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:28:55] Speaker A: Because I will not put my clients that they've known. This has been a place of complete respect and privacy. [01:29:02] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:29:03] Speaker A: Be ruined by you. Only if some warning you now, if I hear of you saying a word when you come out of that room about the reading, I'll be kicking you out. [01:29:17] Speaker B: Yep. [01:29:19] Speaker A: She just laughed. You go, yes. Oh, yes. I said, no worries. I said, okay, fair enough. Anyway, I had to go home, so I left around the corner from where it. The readings were being done. [01:29:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:29:28] Speaker A: You know, and when I come back, the girl that was looking after the des for me, Selva such and such, just told me about the reading. [01:29:37] Speaker B: Okay. [01:29:38] Speaker A: She knows how much I expect that. [01:29:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:29:40] Speaker A: So the person came out and she was doing a reading. So I said, I'm not going to interrupt her. [01:29:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:29:48] Speaker A: And then she came out and I said, did you tell her about the reading? And she looked at me. Ah. We had a little bit of a discussion, said, well, pack your stuff and go. You can't do that. I still got 10 readings. I said, I don't care. Pack your stuff and go. I will do those 10 readings for free to one of them. Yeah, but you're not welcome here. Don't even call me back. You're gonna be welcome. And don't ask anybody to ask me what you like because I will not recommend you. [01:30:19] Speaker C: Yeah, fair enough. [01:30:22] Speaker A: And she left. [01:30:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:30:23] Speaker A: Right. And then she left. But she never left town. So she went to a motel, booked a room, and then she rang everybody and told her what a horrible person I was. [01:30:33] Speaker B: And. [01:30:33] Speaker A: Oh, but she forgets. Collie's a very small town. [01:30:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:30:37] Speaker C: Failed to mention the part where she was. [01:30:38] Speaker A: Yeah, everybody knows me. Yeah, everybody knows me. [01:30:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:30:44] Speaker A: So one particular one of the reasons were booked, you know, she came home and said, so I need to hear from you. What happened? Why did she change venue where she's reading? I says, well, you know what I'm like about privacy. She came out and told her about the reading that she had with someone this morning. So I told her to go. So I was doing all the readings for free to honor them. She goes, oh, she's staying at the motel down the road there. I said, that's all right. It's not my business. I don't care what happens in the motel there. [01:31:09] Speaker B: Yeah, but. [01:31:11] Speaker A: Yeah, that's just the way it is. [01:31:12] Speaker B: Yeah. Right. [01:31:13] Speaker C: I mean, that is a big no go anyway. [01:31:15] Speaker A: No, but after that, she rang everybody because it was her group of friends that was gonna go down, so. Well, none of them went. Yeah, but that's not the point, you know, but it's like privacy is important. You've got to respect people's. [01:31:26] Speaker C: Absolutely. [01:31:27] Speaker A: People's face, you know, and because it. [01:31:28] Speaker C: Is such sensitive things that do come out. [01:31:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:31:31] Speaker A: Because a lot of people do it, believe it or not, they do it because they want to sound knowledgeable, like they know that person and they have every right to talk about them. [01:31:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:31:40] Speaker C: Bragging rights or something. [01:31:41] Speaker A: Me and one of the radio announcers that used to do a show with in Bunbury, we were sitting in a coffee shop, right? And there was a table here. There was me and him, and there was these two ladies behind me. Now they were talking about me. [01:31:55] Speaker B: Right, Right. [01:31:56] Speaker A: I just finished doing the Breakfast show and I just came out there and we were just talking and we were listening and he said, you're going to say anything. I said, no, no, no, just. Just let it go. Let it go. [01:32:04] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [01:32:05] Speaker A: And she was talking like she knew me. I mean, she really, really knew me, you know? So I just kept on listening and listen. And he said, go inside. I said, no, no, don't worry, I've got a plan. [01:32:16] Speaker B: Yep. [01:32:18] Speaker A: Anyway, so we left it there. We finished up our breakfast and we had to go back to record some advertising. We do. [01:32:25] Speaker B: And, yeah. [01:32:25] Speaker A: I said, okay, let's go back to the radio station. And before I left, I got one of my cards. I think, look, here's my card. I really enjoy listening about me. I need to know more about me. Can you call me, please? [01:32:38] Speaker B: Yeah, right. [01:32:39] Speaker A: Because some of the things she was saying, I didn't even know. [01:32:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:32:43] Speaker A: So you obviously know me better. [01:32:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:32:46] Speaker A: So please call me. Her friend says, who's that? She goes, I don't know. And she looks like. He says, they said that that's a silver. Yeah, right, that's silver. And I go, yes, it's silver. [01:32:58] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:32:58] Speaker C: And they were just. [01:32:59] Speaker A: But you told me you knew her. [01:33:01] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:33:02] Speaker A: I said, I've never met her, but she knows me. Yeah, please call me. [01:33:06] Speaker C: That would have been hilarious. I would have loved to have been there. How embarrassing, though, sitting there and doing things. [01:33:12] Speaker A: It's a bit like. We went out to dinner with Kevin bloody Wilson one night, right? [01:33:15] Speaker B: Oh, did you? [01:33:17] Speaker C: Gosh, I would have loved to have done that. [01:33:19] Speaker A: He's an amazing man, you know, he's an amazing. And his wife Betty is beautiful. [01:33:24] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:33:24] Speaker A: We're having dinner and these two girls came up to and talk to him and they said, ah. Oh, you look like Kevin bloody Wilson, you know, can you do a roll graph? Said, I'm not Kevin, my name is Brian. [01:33:39] Speaker C: Oh, really? [01:33:39] Speaker A: His name is Brian? Yeah, he said, I'm Brian. Sorry, I'm not Kevin. You must have me confused. You look so much like. You'll see. Yeah. People tell me that, but no, no, I'm just. I'm just. Brian, that's hilarious. [01:33:55] Speaker C: I think his. I think his music used to be played at Christmas time. And he had all those Christmas songs, didn't he? [01:34:00] Speaker A: I did. I recorded my first meditation series at his house. [01:34:05] Speaker C: Oh, really? [01:34:06] Speaker A: Yeah, yeah, because he's the godfather to one of the guys that I did a radio show with. And he said, I'll just ring up Kevin and ask him. Says, Kevin? I said, you know Brian Wilson? You know him? I met him in Porthead, in Kalgoorlie. Before he was famous. We used to live next door to each other. [01:34:24] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [01:34:25] Speaker A: You know, so I used to joke with him all the time. His wife writes all his material. [01:34:29] Speaker C: Does she? [01:34:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:34:31] Speaker A: Anyway. [01:34:32] Speaker B: Wow. [01:34:32] Speaker A: It's really. [01:34:33] Speaker C: Shout out to his wife. [01:34:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:34:35] Speaker A: And. And I said, really? I haven't seen. I haven't seen him for donkey. She is. [01:34:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:34:41] Speaker A: Anyway, so we went up in. In. The guy that was doing the radio with. He said, when we got this out, brian, I got a surprise for you and someone you haven't seen for quite a while. You know what? He goes, oh, my God, the witch is back. You know? So anyway, so we'd recorded the CDs there, and it was like. It was amazing. Yeah. Nice guy. Nice guy. [01:35:02] Speaker C: When was the last time you saw him? [01:35:05] Speaker A: 30 years ago. [01:35:06] Speaker C: Oh, really? [01:35:07] Speaker A: Yes. Yeah. [01:35:08] Speaker C: So he would have been right in his prime then, too, wouldn't he? [01:35:10] Speaker A: Was. [01:35:10] Speaker B: He was, yeah. [01:35:11] Speaker A: He's retired now. His daughter does most of it now. [01:35:14] Speaker C: So does she. [01:35:15] Speaker B: What does she do? [01:35:15] Speaker C: The same thing. [01:35:16] Speaker A: She's a great comedian and she thinks, oh, really? She's got a great voice. She sings and she jokes. She's just like a father. I have to look her up. [01:35:25] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. Right. Yeah. Yeah. [01:35:27] Speaker C: Say talent and skills, they are, you know, hereditary, and they do. I think we might cut to a song. [01:35:34] Speaker A: Okay. [01:35:34] Speaker C: Do you want to hear Stand By Me? [01:35:36] Speaker A: Yes. Why not? [01:35:37] Speaker B: Let's do it. [01:35:38] Speaker C: There's some Ben E. King. [01:35:41] Speaker A: Your voice, your community station. You are listening to IPL Radio. So here we are. Yes. Did you miss us? We missed you. [01:35:54] Speaker C: Yes, absolutely. We were having a good yarn then, too. [01:35:57] Speaker A: It's so good. I mean, one of the. One of the things a lot of people say to me, you know, like, I was at darts, you know, I play darts. [01:36:04] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:36:05] Speaker A: As you know. [01:36:05] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:36:06] Speaker A: And I play temping. Bowling. [01:36:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:36:07] Speaker A: There's the two things that I do. [01:36:09] Speaker C: Oh, we're gonna have to go bowling. [01:36:10] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:36:10] Speaker A: You Know, temping, bowling. On Thursday morning, a bowl with a bunch of nice ladies, you know, all the. All the young ladies. 16 up. [01:36:18] Speaker B: Okay. [01:36:18] Speaker C: Did you go bowling today? [01:36:19] Speaker A: I sure did. [01:36:20] Speaker C: Awesome. [01:36:21] Speaker A: And then on Monday night, I play with my grandson and my son. We made a team together. [01:36:26] Speaker C: Oh, cool. [01:36:27] Speaker A: And so my son called the team. We've been framed. [01:36:30] Speaker C: Oh, okay. [01:36:31] Speaker B: I like that. We're really, really good. [01:36:34] Speaker A: And. [01:36:34] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:36:34] Speaker A: And anyway, and the. The tempeh bowl Thursday morning, I play with a friend that I've been bowling together for over 30 years. So we've been together now. Her niece and her son has joined us, so we call the team the new gen, the new generation. [01:36:48] Speaker B: Oh, I like that. Yeah. [01:36:49] Speaker A: Because the new generation coming in. [01:36:51] Speaker C: I could be a new gen at bowling, too. [01:36:54] Speaker A: Yeah. Anyway, darts and the stats, especially, a lot of people say to me, silver, I. You must have a very boring life. And I go, what do you say that? What do you say that? He said, because you don't drink, you don't party hard or anything. [01:37:08] Speaker C: You don't have to be drinking to have fun. [01:37:10] Speaker A: Your life must be very. Oh, mate, I. I have the. The wildest of days, you know, you. I'm. I. I laugh so much in the day and I have conversations in great depth into funny things, and I don't need to drink. I'm high on life. [01:37:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:37:27] Speaker A: Wouldn't you want to learn how to be high on life? [01:37:30] Speaker C: Absolutely. [01:37:31] Speaker A: You know, and that's what people need to learn. [01:37:33] Speaker C: Yes, definitely. [01:37:34] Speaker A: You know, just learn how to be happy with yourself. [01:37:37] Speaker B: Happy. Happy with yourself. [01:37:38] Speaker A: Happy with your connection. Because everything starts from within. [01:37:42] Speaker B: Correct? Everything. Yeah. [01:37:44] Speaker A: Nobody can make you happy. [01:37:46] Speaker C: No. [01:37:47] Speaker A: Nobody can make you. Make you sad, actually. No, you choose to be sad. You choose to be happy. [01:37:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:37:53] Speaker A: You know, we make that choice. Oh, God. I didn't like that. I choose not to like that, you know, like, why. [01:38:01] Speaker C: So you choose either way, don't you? [01:38:03] Speaker A: You try. You've got to learn to brush it off. You've got to learn to work towards it. You've got to learn to celebrate. [01:38:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:38:07] Speaker A: You know, it's like, I think my husband was passed for about six or seven months and I was back in my happy self. But you're still mourning him. And then someone said to me, don't you miss? Your husband says, oh, every day. Every minute of the day. [01:38:22] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:38:23] Speaker A: But I'm alive and he's not. [01:38:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:38:26] Speaker A: And life goes on. [01:38:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:38:28] Speaker C: Plus, he would want you in, like. [01:38:31] Speaker A: When it comes to losing a loved one, it is hard. It's probably the toughest thing. And it's not anything you ever get over completely. You don't? [01:38:40] Speaker B: No. [01:38:41] Speaker A: I just Learned to adjust 45 years ago, and she was a twin, so every time it's my son's birthday, I remember her. [01:38:48] Speaker B: All right. [01:38:48] Speaker A: So I relive it every year. And it makes me sad, but I'm also happy because she's an angel. And God gave me this perfect soul that all she needed to learn in life was love. And I was the one that was chosen to teach you love. [01:39:03] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:39:03] Speaker A: Because when you're pregnant, what do you give a baby? The purest of love. [01:39:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:39:08] Speaker A: And you come to this world to learn and grow. [01:39:11] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:39:12] Speaker A: And I know that for her to remain in this world was only going to regress her, not progress her. [01:39:18] Speaker B: Right. [01:39:19] Speaker A: So she didn't need to stay here because the world is not ready for it. [01:39:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:39:25] Speaker A: And the war, the world was gonna damage her, nor improve her. So she lived the 20 seconds. I think that's all it was. [01:39:35] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:39:35] Speaker A: That she needed to feel the love that she needed to feel. And then she went back to heaven, you know, And I remember when. When she passed, I was gutted. I was just so gutted, like. [01:39:49] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:39:50] Speaker A: It's just. Why? Why me? I do everything right. I do. And it was my first pregnancy as well, to make it worse. [01:39:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:39:57] Speaker A: And, you know, the baby boy, it's there. I mean, he was. There was 16 weeks early, so. [01:40:02] Speaker B: All right. [01:40:03] Speaker A: He was very delicate. I was only 24 weeks pregnant. [01:40:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:40:07] Speaker A: And, you know, I didn't know whether he was going to leave or die as well, but he just kept going. He was a fighter. And I remember praying, you know, and then my granddad came, Spirit niece, one that told me, says, you know, God only chooses the strongest of people to be able to deal with something as special as this. [01:40:28] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:40:29] Speaker A: All your baby needed to learn was the true taste of love. [01:40:33] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:40:34] Speaker A: And you gave that baby the purest of love you could ever given it. So now it doesn't need to learn anymore. It's a perfect soul. [01:40:42] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:40:42] Speaker A: And we're only in this world while we are learning and growing. When we have no more to learn, we go. [01:40:50] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:40:51] Speaker A: In a time Sack. [01:40:52] Speaker C: Do you know what's so bizarre that you're saying this? And I had this exact conversation today with my son's father. I ran into him at the shop and we were chatting. [01:41:02] Speaker A: Literally running to a space. [01:41:04] Speaker C: No. Well, you know, if it was someone else, I probably would have run into them. [01:41:07] Speaker B: Literally. [01:41:08] Speaker C: No, I ran into him at the shop. And we were just talking about, you know, different things, and it come up about our daughter that we lost. [01:41:19] Speaker A: I didn't know you lost one. [01:41:20] Speaker C: I've lost many, actually, but this one was. Yeah, a big breaking point. And so this was in 2008. [01:41:33] Speaker B: And. [01:41:36] Speaker C: It broke him in ways he never repaired from. And we'd never had this conversation. And I said, I lost her, too. Like, he just destroyed everything around him. He just wasn't the same. And I watched him turn into someone I didn't recognize. But I said to him today, I said, I lost her, too. You know, he goes, life, that's. It's cruel. Why take something so beautiful when we had something, you know? And I said, you chose how to respond to our loss. I lost her, too. And I had to keep going, and you didn't, you know, and you broke everything around you, everyone. And I said, you forgot. I carried her and I lost her. And I had this conversation. [01:42:28] Speaker B: So it's. It's. [01:42:29] Speaker C: It's just bizarre that it came up. [01:42:32] Speaker B: But. [01:42:34] Speaker C: But having hearing you talk about your daughter and the 20 seconds and that's all she needed, and the love. It makes perfect sense. [01:42:44] Speaker A: It does. [01:42:44] Speaker B: Yeah. It's beautiful. [01:42:47] Speaker C: And I think people hearing this, hopefully they can take that from this, because it is probably one of the hardest things to go through as a parent. But I think that to put that spin on it and. And have that understanding and is a beautiful way of honoring that. [01:43:09] Speaker B: That. [01:43:09] Speaker C: That soul. [01:43:11] Speaker A: My husband never, ever got over Lucy and Kellyanne. Never. [01:43:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:43:15] Speaker A: So her name was not mentioned ever. [01:43:18] Speaker B: Right. [01:43:19] Speaker A: He would never talk about her. He would never say anything. He just. [01:43:23] Speaker C: But, you know, they're together, though. [01:43:24] Speaker A: He blocked it completely, you know, and in about a week before he passed, he said, I'm going to spend time with Kellyanne. [01:43:36] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:43:37] Speaker A: And he said her name, and I just cried because that's the first time ever I heard him say her name. [01:43:43] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:43:43] Speaker A: He said, you said it. I said, kellyanne. [01:43:45] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:43:47] Speaker A: She's waiting for me. [01:43:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:43:48] Speaker A: Beautiful, you know, and it was beautiful. [01:43:50] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:43:51] Speaker A: You know, and it was really. And he said, she's growing. It was. It was. You know, and it was. It was just amazing, you know, in life and when you lose someone, you know, you never get over it. You never really get over it. Now. [01:44:06] Speaker B: You learn to live with it. [01:44:08] Speaker A: You learn to live with it, and you learn to continue mourning in celebrating the time that you had with them wrong way or another. [01:44:16] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:44:16] Speaker A: You know, so. But a lot of people, unless they had a loss, sometimes they don't Understand it. No, you've got to experience it, whether it's a brother or a husband or a child or whatever. [01:44:28] Speaker B: Yeah, definitely. [01:44:30] Speaker A: Yeah. [01:44:31] Speaker C: With all the loss that. That you do go through, I think a parental one is. Is quite pivotal. And. And a child, for sure. [01:44:39] Speaker A: We're not meant to bury our children. [01:44:41] Speaker B: No, no. [01:44:42] Speaker C: But I've lost quite a few. [01:44:44] Speaker A: I remember in 2008, also a friend of mine. No, no, it was earlier than that. It was earlier than that because she had a second child to that. And I. A friend of mine, her daughter had lost a baby, and. And I do funerals, so I was going to Bali, I remember, and she lost a baby, and the father came to Silva. Can you do my granddaughter's funeral? I said, I would love to, but I've gone to Bali tomorrow. She said, I'll buy you another ticket. I don't want to. Nobody. I don't want nobody else to do it. I want you to do it. [01:45:21] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:45:22] Speaker A: And I said, okay. So I said to my husband, look, you go to Bali with everybody else. I will join you. [01:45:28] Speaker B: Yeah. Later. [01:45:29] Speaker A: I'm staying. And I did that, you know, and. Because when I do funerals, I like to go and spend time with the body and communicate with the body. [01:45:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:45:39] Speaker A: And ask the body, what. Is there anything you want me to say? Is there anything? And I went and spent time with this beautiful baby. [01:45:47] Speaker C: Interesting. [01:45:48] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:45:48] Speaker A: You know, and I had the pleasure of bathing her and dressing her and. And connecting with her, and she was just such a beautiful essence of joy. And I remember until I told the grandparents and the mother, probably, I say, she told me, she doesn't understand why you're so sad. [01:46:12] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:46:12] Speaker A: When she got to have the best. And now she's happy and complete. [01:46:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:46:20] Speaker A: You know, and. And I'll never forgotten that, because she was such a happy soul. Such a happy soul. [01:46:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:46:27] Speaker A: You know, it was just incredible. [01:46:29] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:46:29] Speaker C: I think, obviously, the mourning and the grief is for your loss. [01:46:34] Speaker A: Yes. [01:46:35] Speaker C: But if you think about that and the baby and then the soul and the happiness and then the happy side, I think that is very. I don't know. That would be a great way of dealing with things and a great way of getting through it easier. [01:46:52] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:46:52] Speaker C: To be able to have that awareness to. To process things like that, I think there's something beautiful in that, too. [01:46:59] Speaker A: See, I don't. I don't like wakes. I really. I'm not awake. Lover. [01:47:02] Speaker B: No. [01:47:02] Speaker C: Well, when they're not celebrations of their life, I. I think it's. [01:47:06] Speaker A: I don't go to Wakes. [01:47:07] Speaker C: Yeah, I think they're awake. [01:47:08] Speaker A: So. [01:47:08] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:47:09] Speaker A: So what I do, I got my funeral all planned. I've got it all ready to go. It's all planned. And what's going to happen when I die? My body's going to go and be cremated as soon as possible. [01:47:19] Speaker B: Yep. [01:47:20] Speaker A: You know, so as soon as they can do it, just take it away, cremate it and. And the ashes. Well, I want Brad to go to all the places we've been to like Bali, everything, and actually put a pile on the roof because I travel around wa. A lot and just drive around. [01:47:37] Speaker B: Yeah, I love that. [01:47:39] Speaker A: Just put me everywhere. I don't care. [01:47:41] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:47:41] Speaker A: And then my next birthday. So if I die, say December. Well, my next birthday, I want to have a birthday party for me and that then. And that's it. [01:47:51] Speaker C: Yeah, I think that's cool. [01:47:53] Speaker A: Instead of. Instead of a memorial or. [01:47:57] Speaker B: Yeah, any sort of memorial when you're. [01:47:59] Speaker A: On the deepest of sadness. [01:48:01] Speaker B: Yeah. Yep. [01:48:02] Speaker A: I want you to plan my. My party because you know what happens then? [01:48:08] Speaker B: What? [01:48:08] Speaker A: When you actually do it six months later or Saturday in December. And my birthday's in May, so comes in May. The people that really cared about you will come. [01:48:20] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:48:20] Speaker A: The people that were really connected with you will come. The people that really care about your family will come. The people that really have a meaning in your life will come to that memorial. [01:48:30] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:48:31] Speaker A: When someone dies, a lot of people. Ah, yeah. I knew Surniva. They told you got so many people that they really shouldn't be there. [01:48:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:48:39] Speaker A: And a lot of people, they spend thousands on funerals. Yeah, thousands. [01:48:46] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:48:47] Speaker A: They're not. [01:48:47] Speaker B: They're not. [01:48:47] Speaker A: Yeah. My husband funeral, there was 350 people in there. [01:48:53] Speaker B: There. [01:48:53] Speaker C: Oh, really? [01:48:54] Speaker A: It was huge. [01:48:55] Speaker B: Yeah. Wow. [01:48:56] Speaker A: We didn't play two up. [01:48:57] Speaker C: Oh, did you? [01:48:58] Speaker A: Because he was a tour mate. [01:48:59] Speaker B: Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah. [01:49:01] Speaker A: About half of them I didn't even know. I said, what are you doing here? We don't even know you, you know. So funerals are supposed to be for people that are connected and. And you go there to celebrate their life because you've got a life to celebrate with them. [01:49:18] Speaker B: Yeah, it. [01:49:20] Speaker A: What's happening. A lot of funerals now, people go there for the free booze and food. Yeah, I know it sounds terrible. [01:49:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:49:27] Speaker A: But that's. [01:49:28] Speaker C: But that is true. [01:49:29] Speaker A: That happens in a lot of. [01:49:30] Speaker C: Sometimes they just do it to be. Some people do it out of respect and obviously whatever. But some people just do it to show up just so they can say. [01:49:37] Speaker A: They showed up once, you know. [01:49:38] Speaker C: Yeah. I'M gonna go on you. [01:49:39] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:49:40] Speaker A: So I said to Brasses, promise me that you'll wait until my next birthday. So if I die in. In August, as long as my next birthday in May. But if I die, my birthday, wait 12 months and then have my next birthday, then celebrate my life, really celebrate my life and then say, I remember when Silver fell off that tree, you know, or whatever. I'm good at falling off trees. [01:50:04] Speaker C: I'm good at falling over everything. I'm the clumsiest person I know. [01:50:08] Speaker A: Missed the step all together and went flat on her face or whatever, you know, whatever funny story you can think of. [01:50:17] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:50:17] Speaker A: You know. [01:50:18] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah. [01:50:19] Speaker A: And it's really good. [01:50:20] Speaker C: I think they should be celebrations of life. And, you know, when my mum passed, she passed on my nephew's birthday. And I remember hearing, I don't want you to cry for me, I want you to celebrate me. And that's why she. She passed on Tommy's birthday. So we would always celebrate rather than be sad. And my sister didn't really. And I don't think she really. [01:50:45] Speaker A: She didn't get it. [01:50:46] Speaker C: No. And I don't think she ever would. Neither did my brother. But honestly, it was mum's way of saying, remember to celebrate, remember to be happy. And. Yeah, they didn't get it. [01:50:56] Speaker B: But. [01:50:57] Speaker C: Yeah, I think that is a beautiful idea. [01:50:59] Speaker B: It is, yeah. [01:51:00] Speaker C: And I love funerals where they wear colours, come in this colour because it was their favorite color. I love that. [01:51:07] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:51:07] Speaker C: You know, I just think the brighter the better. [01:51:10] Speaker B: Yep. [01:51:11] Speaker C: You know, a friend's mother's funeral, they had the most beautiful. Like a rattan or wicker kind of white coffin. Beautiful. And they had the Reiki ladies and they did their shrill. It was so beautiful. It was absolutely amazing, actually. And I'd never been. And I still haven't been to a funeral like that, that. But the love that was in this room was just phenomenal and in the. You know, and the celebration of her life was just beautiful. So, yeah, I think they should be like that. [01:51:44] Speaker A: I tell you a funny story about my husband's. [01:51:46] Speaker B: Oh, he died. Okay. [01:51:47] Speaker A: He. Before he died, the minute he got. He got diagnosed with stuff like we also. Okay, let's go and plan the funeral. So we went to the funeral parlor. Yeah, the coffin. [01:51:55] Speaker C: I knew this was going to be a funny story. I knew there was one there. We picked the coffin. [01:51:58] Speaker A: Coffin. We picked everything. We had everything organized, you know, we thought we're going to do and stuff like that. And I used to say to my husband, he was always late. Always 50 minutes late. He says you've got to make an entrance. You've got to be fashionably late so people knows that you arrived. [01:52:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:52:14] Speaker A: He will always be late. Always. [01:52:15] Speaker B: Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:52:16] Speaker A: And I said, you'll be late in your funeral, I'm sure of it. [01:52:19] Speaker B: Yeah, yeah, yeah. [01:52:20] Speaker A: And. And, and my son said, no, he's got no control on that, so he can't do that anyway. But before that, the day after he died, we never told the kids that we already picked the coffin. We picked up everything. You know, Brad had a. Brett had a bad back, right? A really bad back. He was in a. He was an invalid pension for a long time due to a car accident. He couldn't walk half the time. And there's a lot of things there. [01:52:45] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:52:45] Speaker A: Anyway, so we picked that. He went there and we picked the cheapest coffin we could find. Yeah, the cheapest. [01:52:51] Speaker C: Why do they have to put them in a coffin when they're just cremating them anyway? [01:52:55] Speaker A: I know, but you're not allowed to wrap them up in sheet. If we could have done that, we would have done that. [01:52:58] Speaker C: Yeah, but it makes no sense. [01:53:00] Speaker A: So we picked the cheapest, good old fashioned pine coffin that you could find. The cheapest. [01:53:05] Speaker B: Yeah. Yep, yep. [01:53:08] Speaker A: So he said, then I want you to take the kids to a funeral parlor and get them to pick the coffin, see if they could work it out, which one would he pick, you know? Now, my husband loved Jara. He was a lover of jara. He just loved Jara, you know. So we went to the funeral parlor. We were looking around, looking at this, you know, and my boy said, ah, the Jarrah coffin. That dad would have picked this, you know, and said, that's what dad's gonna. That's what we should put that on. We should put that on that one, you know. And I said, but you need more cushions because that's got a bad back. Now, Jarek, my grandson, he was only four years old, you know, he picked it, didn't he? You know, and he was looking and when they said, they said, oh, he's got a bad back. And he said, granddad's dead, you know, and he stays at that. [01:53:56] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:53:57] Speaker A: And there is picking. And he goes, nah, Granddad told me which one he wants. He said, oh, no, he didn't. Yes, he's here right now. He wants this one. And he said, we can't put granddad on a pine coffin, you know, look at ugly it is. It's only 700 bucks, you know, like it's really? [01:54:14] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:54:14] Speaker A: In grand. And he said, no. He says it'd be more money for beer. [01:54:19] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:54:20] Speaker A: And we just looked at him and. [01:54:21] Speaker C: Laughed, you know, that's so cool. [01:54:23] Speaker A: But he just. He picked it. He picked it, right? [01:54:25] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:54:25] Speaker A: Anyway, so. But the kids got their wish. There was so sad. I gave in. And they got the jar of coffin with the extra cushion and. [01:54:33] Speaker B: Oh, really? [01:54:34] Speaker A: Yes, they did. [01:54:34] Speaker C: I was important for them. [01:54:35] Speaker A: For them it was. [01:54:36] Speaker B: Was. Yeah. [01:54:37] Speaker C: So lesbian then. [01:54:38] Speaker A: There wasn't. There would. There's no way we're sending that off. I said, it's going to be burned. [01:54:43] Speaker C: Yeah, I know. This is. [01:54:44] Speaker B: This. [01:54:44] Speaker C: What went in my head just said. I'm like, I've never thought about it before. [01:54:47] Speaker A: Anyway, I said, okay. Okay. So we did it. [01:54:50] Speaker B: Yep. Yep. [01:54:51] Speaker A: And. And then the funeral came around. Right as the hearse is leaving the funeral parlor. What happens? Two flat ties. Brett was exactly 15 minutes late. [01:55:08] Speaker C: Oh, really? Oh, my gosh. I got goosebumps. [01:55:13] Speaker A: I said to the guy, I said, he was. Apologized. He said, no, don't apologize. [01:55:17] Speaker C: It was meant to be. [01:55:19] Speaker A: He had to be. [01:55:20] Speaker C: Two flat tires. [01:55:21] Speaker A: Bread was always 15 minutes late everywhere he went because he loves to make an entrance. [01:55:27] Speaker C: I'll be late to my funeral, too. [01:55:29] Speaker B: Yeah. Yeah. [01:55:30] Speaker A: It is just so funny. [01:55:31] Speaker C: And you just knew, like, oh, my God, that was Dockers funeral. [01:55:36] Speaker A: Like that. We had the Docker flag over the coffee because we mad Docker supporters. [01:55:40] Speaker C: Okay. [01:55:40] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:55:40] Speaker A: The flag over the coffin. And we play the Docker song. Stuff like that. And then we sang. No, I sang. Not we. I sang. I. I did it my way. Cuz that was. You got to sing that because I used to sing that in karaoke for him. [01:55:56] Speaker B: Oh, okay. [01:55:56] Speaker A: Sing that at my funeral. So I did that. [01:55:59] Speaker C: Awesome. I'll have to do karaoke with you one time. [01:56:02] Speaker A: I love karaoke. I got crazy. [01:56:06] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:56:06] Speaker C: Oh, I love it. [01:56:07] Speaker B: I love it. [01:56:07] Speaker C: Do you know what I've just realized? [01:56:10] Speaker B: This is. [01:56:10] Speaker C: We're out of time. [01:56:12] Speaker A: Are we? [01:56:13] Speaker B: Yes. [01:56:13] Speaker C: We got two minutes. [01:56:16] Speaker A: The next people haven't kicked us out. [01:56:18] Speaker C: No. I don't even know if there's anyone in after us tonight. Yeah, I do know on Tuesdays, but. [01:56:23] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:56:23] Speaker C: How good was that? It just feels like we've been talking for like 30 minutes. Don't you reckon? [01:56:27] Speaker A: Yeah, I know. [01:56:27] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:56:28] Speaker C: It's just gone really effortless. [01:56:29] Speaker B: It is. [01:56:30] Speaker A: Well, guys, I hope you really enjoyed tonight. We certainly did. [01:56:33] Speaker C: Thank you for joining myself and Silva for all the things tonight on ipl. [01:56:37] Speaker A: I think. I tell you what I think we should do. We should Start a Facebook page together. [01:56:43] Speaker C: Let's do it. [01:56:43] Speaker A: And just call it the name of the show so people can join that Facebook page. [01:56:47] Speaker B: Yeah. [01:56:48] Speaker C: And then we can get feedback and. [01:56:49] Speaker A: Comments and questions and tell us what they want to know about, what they want to learn, how they want to expand. And we can put whatever we're planning to do for the next or whatever for the next show or even workshops that we do or whatever we can put it all on. So people will be kept informed. Well informed. [01:57:06] Speaker C: Absolutely. [01:57:07] Speaker A: Where they can find us and how we can get together. [01:57:10] Speaker C: I love that idea. And we'll set that up over the next few days. [01:57:13] Speaker A: We will. [01:57:14] Speaker B: Yep. [01:57:14] Speaker C: So look out for that. And we'll have it on the IPL Socials so you can contact us. We do really want to hear some of your stories. We want some feedback because we want to make a really epic Halloween show. [01:57:27] Speaker A: Yes, we do. Yes, we do. [01:57:28] Speaker C: And like, I would love to do one of these ghosty things in Perth, like, with you, around the same time, so we can talk about that as well. [01:57:37] Speaker A: Yeah, that would be good, don't you reckon? Yeah. [01:57:39] Speaker C: So if you have any ideas about us visiting somewhere haunted or, you know, anything like that, please feel free to hit us up on the Socials. You can go through Mind Jen, Jen Pollard or Silver Dutton. And we will have our all the Things page ready soon, so you can contact us via that. But anything else go through IPL Radio. And thank you for joining us tonight. Thank you, Silva. [01:58:00] Speaker A: And we'll get together next week again. [01:58:02] Speaker C: Absolutely, absolutely. We'll play one more song. But this is us for IPL all the Things. And have a great night. [01:58:10] Speaker A: Good night. More music, Better mental health. Only on IPL Radio.